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I liked the position also but unfortunately it is not good chess. By this I mean if you try and play such an opening you will lose or more likely never get to the final position of the opening.
To me, taking an opening that people do not like--that has a bad reputation--but is sound--to take that opening and rehabilitate it
is something nice you can add to chess theory.
examples Scandinavian Defense for Black and Ponziani Opening for White.
I am sure after seeing the opening the lad wanted to not only try to have central control and to keep his knights behind his pawns. I personally like my knights behind my pawns in the opening more so than the middle game. I would rather be able to push my pawns when I am ready,not after I have to move my knight. As I said previously, the objectives he seeks to obtain, can be had with the right moves.
Thank again for all of your thoughts and helping me look at this with all of your experience =D
I'm not sure anyone mentioned this, but the reason that those rook moves are unnatural is because of castling. If you move your rook before castling, you wont be able to castle on that side of the board, if you move both you wont be able to castle at all. This leaves your king a bit exposed in the centre of the board.
It also makes it a bit harder to get them 'connected'. Connected rooks are better because they can protect each other.
The same reason you wouldn't normally move your f/g/h pawns in the opening, because they ruin the safe pawn structures around the king after castling. You can't take back pawn moves.
Thanks alot for your responces, first to nameno1had I feel that those initial pawns are still quite easy to defend and personnally i disagree that the could chase you no matter what they try i feel that there is always a way for white to respond effectively.
And in responce to BruceBenedict i agree but i also feel that you can develope away from what I put above and be at no disadvantage at any point, I do realize using this method howver you must be very careful with how you use your knights (as in any game) they are pivital to how this openning works.
Finnally in responce to transpo, I agree that black can counter whites control of the centre, but, in my opinion using the flanking pawns to control the centre (and place a barrier to an attack on the knights) allows you to gain extra power by using the centre pawn or you can adopt a defensive position, with the centre pawns occupying row three, and I do realise that this limits the development of stronger material but leaves white with a very strong position focused on the centre. Also I would love to have some recomendations on ways to improve (I am a young player looking to develop).
On a final note thanks alot for your all quick responces they have been very helpful :)
It is almost never safe to assume, but I will risk it this time. Can I take it that your last post dismisses your post that I quoted. It would sure save alot of explaining WHY. Its ok, because I was the same at your age. I drove my analytical geometry teachers crazy in middle school (6th, 7th, 8th grade) with the question, WHY? They would tell me because there are theorems that prove why we ask you to perform these operations on these formulas. And, when I wanted to see the Theorem they would say, "...You will see those theorems when you are in college. Long story short I drove them crazy.
I don't know how old you are. If that is your photograph in the icon, then you look to be 12 or 13. When did you first play chess, and how old were you?
I will wait for your reply. Based on that, I will for sure outline a training regimen for you. It is the same one that I used to become a "professional gunslinger" (a very strong player.)
Yes I think it does, I fully see the weakness to trying to do that now :) (thanks to all of you for showing me them). I first started playing when I was 4 (my grandad tought me then) and my schools chess club disbande when i was 10, my next school didnt have one so I have only bee able to play the odd game up to where I am now (16).
(My Mum who i played most with stoped playing when she couldnt beat me anymore so I fell even worse out of practise) and am now trying to be more active with it.
Very interesting and hauntingly parallels the life story of a World Champion chess player known as Bobby Fischer. I am reasonably sure you have heard of him.
I am prefacing the outline of the training regimen with the following 2 items:
1.You can ask why or any question you want at any time during your progress thru the training regimen.
2.I use the Socratic method of teaching. I answer questions with questions that encourage independent thinking on your part. The general idea is for you to learn to think for yourself. Human beings love the ownership of ideas that originate from their own thought process. Even if later they realize that they have reinvented the wheel.
Keeping in mind that Chess is siege warfare: restrain, blockade, execute the enemy. The most complicated chess siege warfare problem is the starting. By contrast, the simplest chess siege warfare problem is the endgame. Analysis is the method of solving a complicated problem by breaking it down into smaller problems that are easier to solve. Since the endgames are the simplest problems we will begin there.
A. Basic checkmate endgames (K+Q v K, K+R v K, K+2Bs v K, K+B+N v K.) Practice these until you can do them in your sleep. I promise you that after practicing these for 3 months mating nets will jump up off the board in the game you are currently playing and smack you on the forehead in a flash. I know it will happen because it happens to me every time I play a game or look at a position. By practicing these basic checkmate endgames until you can do them in your sleep, you are creating visualization patterns in your brain that will enable you to recognize instantly the elements of a mating net in any position or game you are currently playing.
There is one endgame technique used in the basic checkmate endgames. I call it the 'corralling' method. The power of your piece fences in the lone enemy K. Coordinating the actions of your own K and piece the fenced in area is made progressively smaller until the enemy K is driven into a corner of the board and you deliver mate. I the case of K+B+N v K, the enemy K must be driven to one of the 2 corners of the board where the color of the corner square is the same color as your B. In the case of the K+Q v K the fencing in job is very easy but you have to exercise great care not to stalemate the enemy K.
At the same time that you are practicing you basic endgame checkmates, it is important to keep your chess brain in good shape, like an athlete. Buy Irving Chernev's, "1,001 Tactics and Sacrifices In Chess." Get yourself a clock or timer. Begin with the fist diagram in Mr. Chernev's book. Give yourself 3 minutes to select an answer to the tactical position. At the end o the 3 min. or if you have an answer sooner STOP. Go directly to the back of the book. DO NOT set the diagrammed position on a chessboard or spend anytime studying the position. If you got the answer right write a check mark next to the diagram, if you got it wrong write an X next to the diagram. Go to the very next diagram and repeat the process. There are 9 diagrams per page. Do 4 pages per day(45 diagrams x 3 min per diagram= 135 min.(2hrs. and 15min.) in 2 sittings. One in the morning and one in the evening. Go thru the whole book 3 times the same way paying special attention to the diagrams with an X next to them. By going thru this process what you are creating in your brain is a memory bank of tactical techniques (forks, pins, etc.) that are tactical visualization patterns. When you have gone thru the book 3 times buy a book with diagrams of GM and IM tournament game tactical positions. Do the same with that book that you did with Chernev book.
Ok, that is enough for now. After you have done tactics and basic checkmate endgames for 3 months we will go to the next step, endgames and sharpening your endgame technique. As a break from the routine buy "Pawn Power In Chess", by Hans Kmoch. Look it over. Don't let the terminology at the beginning of the book. Look especiallysomewhere between pages 114 -142. Mr. Kmoch writes in those pages about how almost all openings result in 6 characteristic pawn structures. Then he explains alot more about those 6 pawn structures.
Good luck and fun on your great adventure of finding the "truth" in every chess position you encounter. From time to time let me know how things are going in your quest to becoming a 'professional gunslinger' (a very strong player)
12/10/2013 - Easterwood-Williams 2004
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