icelandic gambit

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13th May 2008, 10:13am
#1
by KedDuff
Jamaica
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 91

center counter / scandanavian , icelandic variation

1 e4 d5 2 exd5 Nf6 3 c4 e6 4. dxe6 4 Bxe6 

what do u guys think of it, is it a good opening why does no 1 play it? 

or any other variations where u dont take back with the queen. PORTUGUESE var.


 englund gambit??


13th May 2008, 10:32am
#2
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 680
It is a tactical opening.  You don't have either center pawn, but it can be tricky if White isn't careful.  When I used to play 1. e4, I remember facing a computer program that played this line, and it was tricky at times.  You ought to study it well if you consider it worthwhile to use.  The reason not many people use it is that they do not value the sacrificed pawn getting the bishop to e6.  You have to have a good reason to sack that pawn and get the bishop out there.  Maybe from there, Nc6-Qd7 and 0-0-0?  These are ideas to consider, and then attacking White's kingside.
13th May 2008, 11:01am
#3
by KedDuff
Jamaica
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 91

ive played it 5 times and havn't lost a game with it yet.

thats why im wondering why any 1 else dosn't use it, seems powerful to me. 


13th May 2008, 11:18am
#4
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1215
I think it has decent potential, as gambits go. The fact that no one plays it is probably just fashion.
13th May 2008, 11:33am
#5
by Lord-Svenstikov
Worcester United Kingdom
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 623

I play it fairly often. As a person who plays 1...d5 against 1.e4 almost every time I find that sometimes the Icelandic gambit is the only way to play and keep a lead in development.

A quick illastration of the moves already stated for ease of analysis by others.

 

Which sort of lines to others carry this on with?


13th May 2008, 11:51am
#6
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 680

Now, is the only time you play the Icelandic Gambit is if White plays c4?  I have read that c6 is advantageous for Black in these lines, threatening dxc Nxc with better control of the board.


13th May 2008, 11:57am
#7
by KedDuff
Jamaica
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 91

c6 is another variation instead of e6 forget the name of that gambit line. ive tried it twice, those two were harder games than the icelandic var.

im a tactical player and dont play positionally very well. so i think ive found a great opening for black. 


13th May 2008, 11:59am
#8
by crikey
deepforest Wales
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 49

i love it when i see white trying to hang onto that d5 pawn because the initiative passes over to black.

a simple trap - which W often falls into - is as follows:

 

 

 

 

 

 

...I would give variations, but it's more fun to discover them for yourself!


13th May 2008, 12:15pm
#9
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 680

This variation looks interesting.  I am going to start a forum on the Bronstein variation of the Scandinavian...If you guys have any ideas there, I would like to hear it.  I'm still looking for that one defense against e4 that endears me, like the Dutch against d4.


13th May 2008, 12:30pm
#10
by cobus
Cape Town South Africa
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 3

 

I also had a good success rate against weaker players with this gambit. The stronger players do not allow it as they will play 3.d4 and then after 3...Nxd5

4 c4 Nb6 you and up in an Alekine type of position. For this reason I gave up playing the Scandinavian.

 


13th May 2008, 12:39pm
#11
by KedDuff
Jamaica
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 91
if 3. d4 i try the portugese gambit Bg4. if they block with f3 or knight black gets a good game. if bishop then h pawn up.
13th May 2008, 12:42pm
#12
by crikey
deepforest Wales
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 49

You are right, cobus. But why allow White to hang onto the initiative with 3...Nxd5?

Play the Portugese variation instead, with  3...Bg4.

Much more interesting


 

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