IS KING GAMBIT A GOOD OPENING

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11th August 2008, 11:12pm
#21
by srn347
California United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
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Good for whom? Whomever does the kings gambit(slightly better for white if white does it than for black if black does it). Anyway, doesn't that transpose to kings gambit?

11th August 2008, 11:16pm
#22
by exigentsky
CA United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 377

It's an interesting opening but probably gives equal play that is easier for White.

11th August 2008, 11:58pm
#23
by neospooky
Virginia United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 234

mandelshtam wrote:

its a good way to die fast, for both sides. People who don't live an interesting , but long life accuse the rest of 'burning out fast'...


Undecided

Entertaining.  Say something else deep and philosophical.

Oh, and Chuck Yeager (85 years old), Kurt Vonnegut (died at 84), Boris Spassky (age 71), Clint Eastwood (age 78), etc., ad nauseam.

I particularly liked the proposition that something categorized as "easy" is defined by being able to be explained on one sheet of paper.  I wonder, though, how big is the paper and how small are we allowed to write?  Can we use both sides?  If we can only use one side, if we DO use both, does it become moderately difficult?

So interesting...

12th August 2008, 12:06am
#24
by BillyIdle
Humboldt Park, Chicago United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 3976

KB,

The Fischer line would be a pretty good choice.  Most American players have probably used it at least once in their games.

12th August 2008, 12:41am
#25
by Dark_Daemon_
pagrati Greece
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 48

emm guys even if white takes the pawn he can still protect it

thats why KG isnt used in high rtd games

and all the books from 19th century or so say that blak canot stop  kG

wrong!these years kG was one of the greatest openings but now blak has the weapon to stop it! the antidote"to kG is e4 e5, f4 exf4,Nf3 b5!

try it ,its  powerfull

but! ifu r planing for a king side castle dont do it!

12th August 2008, 05:15am
#26
by gardelin
Split Croatia
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 172

There are good posts about KG in this old KG topic:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/kings-gambit2?lc=1

12th August 2008, 05:48am
#27
by Alex_M
Atlanta, Georgia United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 266

Thanks gardelin, some of those posts are very interesting.

12th August 2008, 06:05am
#28
by normajeanyates
london [often in calcutta india] England
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 2597

I agree with mandelshtam and killerbeez - but variations refuting the supposed equality suddenly emerge ... e.g. the Evans Gambit - written off for 5 decades then gets a new life ... - even the Danish Gambit - there has been some new life injected though not enough for top-level play [plus the Goring Gambit prevents a crucial reply so the Goring is less unpopular in the Danish/Goring complex...] ... in particular the schteleter is less fashionable because of good anti-schteleter Danish lines.

12th August 2008, 11:36am
#29
by BillyIdle
Humboldt Park, Chicago United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 3976

   Yakov Estrin's book on The King's Gambit is probably the definative work on the subject.

12th August 2008, 01:28pm
#30
by Schachgeek
Western Hemisphere United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 891

I play the Kings Gambit regularly. I used to think the Falkbeer was black's best chance but I have found a refutation for anyone who wants to try it on me. 

Rich

12th August 2008, 01:37pm
#31
by ClaypOT
Sacramento-ish, Cal-eee-forrr-niiii-aaa United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 4579

IF played right, it has some very strong lines. And, being that it is a rarely played opening at our level, you can take full advantage of someone that is not familiar with it.

However, as white I typically do not use it for the following reasons:

  • I find that it is not too difficult for black to get some good strong play on the kings side
  • That strong play can more easily disrupts the white king's ability to castle.
  • It does leave the king a bit more exposed, and...
  • It scares the hell out of me! lol

But I also know people who swear by it...

I guess it comes down to one's style, abilities and familiarity with the lines of play.

Happy hunting!

12th August 2008, 02:02pm
#32
by d-reboredo
Argentina
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 2

 One of the best, doubtless. 

Probably will have a new golden age in the near future; but this new age will be no romantic but positional and scientific.

 

 
 
21st August 2008, 09:20am
#33
by river_to_ocean
angmokio Singapore
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 50

I am not much experienced with KG. In my experience, bishop always create great trouble. The atraction of this opening is the rook file

23rd August 2008, 07:16am
#34
by Elubas
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2478

actually, I think fischer said that it loses by force but that's probably only for players over 2000 elo. There are many wrong moves black can make if he doesn't know it well. Still white isn't the only one who can attack: black can also get a strong attack while keeping the extra pawn by threatening a knight by moving g7 to g5 to g4 and the check the king at h4 with the queen. Pretty interesting.

 

4th September 2008, 09:06am
#35
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 22874

Nah it's not that good, the Queens gambit is actually better I think. But the Trompowsky attack and the Fried Liver are my favorites !

4th September 2008, 04:59pm
#36
by linus9113
New York United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 1420

i dont really like the kings gambit.

im more used to the queens gambit....

5th September 2008, 02:54am
#37
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 22874

I agree with you there.

5th September 2008, 01:21pm
#38
by Dmaster995
Yonkers, NY United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 154

I like to play 2... Bc5. It's a good response and no one studies the Kings Gambit Declined anymore!

5th September 2008, 01:49pm
#39
by alison27
United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 56

it's still used by gm's..but then gm's use some pretty bad moves sometimes..

5th September 2008, 02:04pm
#40
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2166

I would guess (maybe someone out there knows, batgirl perhaps) that about half of the World Champions, have at one point played the King's Gambit. Seems enough of a recommendation for mere mortals (and yes! the undead) to play it. It's a fun, risky affair that no one seems to have truly mastered. It's great in blitz play and scares many a player of the black pieces. Like many of the romantic openings, events can soon become tactical, a real seat of the pants experience. The proper question is, do you have the testicular fortitude to reach out and push that pawn to f4? If easily scared then forget it!


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