is this a good opening for black?

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31st August 2008, 05:50am
#1
by apocalypse74
Israel
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 70

1. d4 d5
2. f3 Nc6

is ther a better way to play tghis fore black?

31st August 2008, 03:28pm
#2
by dmeng
Knoxville, TN United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 308

I would play 2. ...e6 instead. White is weakening the e1-h4 diagonal, and it's nice to be ready to take advantage of it if the opportunity arises.

Besides, Black usually develops the queen's knight to d7 in d4 openings, and when it does come to c6, the c-pawn is normally on c5, not c7.

31st August 2008, 06:48pm
#3
by trentthechessnut
Picton, NSW Australia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 393

I disagree with dmeng.

I feel that white wants to play a type of Blackmar Diemer Gambit where I want black to have his bishop out in front of the pawn chain and perhaps tucked into g6 to defend the f7 square.

Maybe play something like 2...Nf6 where if 3.e4 dxe4 4.Nc3 exf3 5.Nxf3 Bf5

31st August 2008, 07:01pm
#4
by dlordmagic
greenville, SC United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 406

Yuo openend descently enough. You pushed a center pawn and developed a piece. Both are sound moves. White playing f3 is generally a bad move as it exposes the king.

31st August 2008, 07:09pm
#5
by trentthechessnut
Picton, NSW Australia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 393

Black just needs to be careful of 3.e4 If 3...dxe4 4.d5! N moves then fxe4 and white has a strong centre and will also have a strong f file to play on once he castles. (I used to play the BDG and used to use it's transpositions.)

1st September 2008, 06:13am
#6
by apocalypse74
Israel
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 70

thenx.. thats same good tips i'm sure i dont realy understend^^

2nd September 2008, 02:05pm
#7
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
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Member Points: 23162

Bf5 rather than Nc6, I'd say so anyway.

2nd September 2008, 02:22pm
#8
by thegab03
on the road to nowhere! Ireland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 18789

Just keep trying by trial and error and then you'll know,for everybody has a different point of view!

2nd September 2008, 08:09pm
#9
by trentthechessnut
Picton, NSW Australia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 393

apocalypse74 wrote:

thenx.. thats same good tips i'm sure i dont realy understend^^


 

 

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3rd September 2008, 07:51am
#10
by apocalypse74
Israel
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 70

thenx trentthechessnut thats much cleer'r bat i am looking for good black defens or attack and thay all loke so bad fore black

3rd September 2008, 09:59am
#11
by KillaBeez
Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 4073

I like either e6 or c6.   Transposes into a halfway normal opening.  I probably like e6 better than c6.

3rd September 2008, 10:44am
#12
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 23162

Most of us like e6 better than c6, including me.

 

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