12133 Players currently online!
Man vs. Machine - good luck!
Turn-based games at any time!
Vote for the best move to win!
Do you have what it takes?
Sharpen your tactical vision!
Get advice and game insights!
Learn from top players & pros!
View millions of master games!
Your virtual chess coach!
Perfect your opening moves!
Test your skills vs. computer!
Find the right private coach!
Can you solve it each day?
Bring it all together!
Beginners, start here!
Make friends & play team games!
News from the world of chess!
Search all Chess.com members!
Find local clubs & events!
Who's the best of your friends?
Read what members are saying!
what do you think
You really want to know? I think 7. Kf1 is winning for White.
a little analysis
Looks like white is winning after Kf1 to me!
That's the Traxler, it sucks.
That's...not the Traxler.
yeah with besst play itrs not good. I did beat a hard computer three times with it though! That must mean it refutes 4.Ng5! at least by gavinator standards
I was hoping for a new spaghetti sauce recipe :-(
But a Traxlerish variation is pretty good compensation, although I'm not sure Black gets enough compensation. It's an interesting idea though.
Gavinator the following is the Traxler and it is good.
i think that it may be ok against a lower rated opponent, but not good otherwise
CS, I agree. And nothing refutes Ng5, because that move wins at least a pawn.
gavi i think i finally understand you now. you do not understand the concept of compensation well and do not know imbalances. I recommend reading silman's reasses your chess and other books so you can learn about all that
Traxler is flawed according to computer analysis. But since we aren't all computers, it can be tricky in blitz or unexperienced opponents.
Actually I do. For example, the fried liver gives excellent compensation for the knight, because you either win the piece back immediately, or have an almost unstoppable mating attack, if Ke6. The issue is that openings like the KG don't give enough compensation, because the just open up your kingside, while giving away a pawn, it seems pretty useless...
Actually, Ng5 isn't ever going to be refuted because as Gavinator said, it wins a pawn. Although Black has good compensation in lines such as Na5, with development, initative, etc, Ng5 isn't refuted. Why do u think Ng5 is still the main line of the Two knights?
@gavi all you know is attacking compensation, but you dont know anything about gambits and stuff.
@DaBigOne I never said it was the main line
I know, im just saying, if it was refuted, it wouldnt BE the main line
That's because gambits suck. I realize they gain position, but someone who's not a retard can hold out, trade pieces, then go into an endgame up a pawn or two. The only good gambits are Double Muzio or Fried Liver, the positional Gambits are kinda lame.
7/24/2014 - Mate in 5
by magnuscarlsenguy 3 minutes ago
Time Control Changes?
by RG1951 4 minutes ago
Ponziani: Impractical in non-computer Correspondence Chess?
by kantifields 7 minutes ago
How do you feel about players who win by cowardly queening a pawn
by RG1951 7 minutes ago
What is youre favorite time control ?
by SebLeb0210 8 minutes ago
Knights who say "Ni !"
by EndlessTrax 9 minutes ago
I need an opening against 1. e4
by raberbar 10 minutes ago
I play only unrated. Do you ?
by SebLeb0210 11 minutes ago
Ashley's Million-dollar chess tourney - but bring your own clocks
by FideiDefensor 48 minutes ago
if magnus carlsen married hou yifan would the kids be gms also?
by Irontiger 50 minutes ago
Why Join | Chess Topics |
Help & Support |
© 2014 Chess.com
• Chess - English
We are working hard to make Chess.com available in over 70 languages. Check back over the year as we develop the technology to add more, and we will try our best to notify you when your language is ready for translating!