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what do you think
You really want to know? I think 7. Kf1 is winning for White.
a little analysis
Looks like white is winning after Kf1 to me!
That's the Traxler, it sucks.
That's...not the Traxler.
yeah with besst play itrs not good. I did beat a hard computer three times with it though! That must mean it refutes 4.Ng5! at least by gavinator standards
I was hoping for a new spaghetti sauce recipe :-(
But a Traxlerish variation is pretty good compensation, although I'm not sure Black gets enough compensation. It's an interesting idea though.
Gavinator the following is the Traxler and it is good.
i think that it may be ok against a lower rated opponent, but not good otherwise
CS, I agree. And nothing refutes Ng5, because that move wins at least a pawn.
gavi i think i finally understand you now. you do not understand the concept of compensation well and do not know imbalances. I recommend reading silman's reasses your chess and other books so you can learn about all that
Traxler is flawed according to computer analysis. But since we aren't all computers, it can be tricky in blitz or unexperienced opponents.
Actually I do. For example, the fried liver gives excellent compensation for the knight, because you either win the piece back immediately, or have an almost unstoppable mating attack, if Ke6. The issue is that openings like the KG don't give enough compensation, because the just open up your kingside, while giving away a pawn, it seems pretty useless...
Actually, Ng5 isn't ever going to be refuted because as Gavinator said, it wins a pawn. Although Black has good compensation in lines such as Na5, with development, initative, etc, Ng5 isn't refuted. Why do u think Ng5 is still the main line of the Two knights?
@gavi all you know is attacking compensation, but you dont know anything about gambits and stuff.
@DaBigOne I never said it was the main line
I know, im just saying, if it was refuted, it wouldnt BE the main line
That's because gambits suck. I realize they gain position, but someone who's not a retard can hold out, trade pieces, then go into an endgame up a pawn or two. The only good gambits are Double Muzio or Fried Liver, the positional Gambits are kinda lame.
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