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CHCL
The 2 main moves are 9...Re8 and 9...Bg4.
AnthonyCG
Really? 9...Bg4 seemed slow to me.
sillytigger
I know, he thinks that everything he plays is superior or ''the best'' and @DaBigOne i agree with you the KID is played by many leading GM's and juniors
Very true, Jake. I think you'll fine a lot of juniors like to deal with 1.d4 with the KID. I find lots of people play the KID against me
Rookrager
If you actually read not skim my articles, you'll find some reasoning in their exactly like yours and one that you might agree with (unless you disagree with yourself ??). Insulting is no a solution.Btw, if I'm rubbish make the game challenge RATED SO I CAN LAUGH EVEN MORE WHEN I WIN.
Also, there's blue writing called variations this may sound unfamiliar but c5 and e5 are in these brackets of blue writing. check those out!
DaBigOne
The Samisch kills.
Actually, the Samisch is my most hoped for line, besides the Mer del Plata.
I know, but the thing is, your move of Re8, I don't think its a main line move, e5, c5, or Nc6 should be one of them.
I'm not insulting, but if you think that, consider this. A player from chess.com with a rating of 1800 ish, is tearing down the fortress of the KID, which was built to last since the 1940's JUST, because he says so. The Samisch isn't terrible for White, but it isn't a refute of the KID either. And about the rated thing, fine! Do you want to end the game now, and start a rated one, or do both simultaneosly?
Well, I have proved that the KID is playable (3rd article) but needs precise play (2nd article), otherwise, you will get thrashed (1st article). Re8 is arguably more accurate than the other moves, but since all variations are given it doesn't matter which one is main. Also, I am not totally refuting the KID. AGAIN, ACTUALLY READ.
DEFCON_1
I love playing against the four pawns attack. I can easily get a draw, and can play for a win if my opponent messes up.
Archerknight
Easily get a draw eh? Yes there are actually forcing draw lines.
There are common ideas with Na4 and Bc1-Bd2-Bc1 after the black queen takes on b2 and is forced to shuffle on a3 and c3 and b3.
With the four pawns attack:
Number of games in database: 1151
Years covered: 1851 to 2012 Overall record: White wins 44.5% Black wins 29.5% Draws 26.1%
With the Samisch:
Years covered: 1928 to 2012Overall record:White wins 41.5%Black wins 27.3%Draws 31.2%
As you can probably tell, the Samisch is played more then the four pawns attack, however the percentage rates are quite similar. No percentage rate dominates the other one by far.
topj
Re8 is not one of the best at all it is actually kind of bad and a waste of a move,u should just play e5 straight after 0-0.(If you want a line for the KID against the london system,just have a look at my article-it is just a game between Vassily Ivanchuk(as white) and I can't exactly remember the other guy)
Your articles are actually forums and they have NO RESEARCH IN THEM.
geez Richard does it matter? This forum looks like it was more of a questioned one rather then a huge debate.
see that's why you also need to look at my article about why you need to avoid @Rookrager :p
superpejo
saemisch is the best system againts KID , but all is playable if you play well and white play bad
it depends on your playing style
aris1963
See? Somebody who actually knows some theory agrees! Jake, stop arguing and just accept that you're wrong (again)!
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