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KID players,do you like playing against the four pawn attack?


  • 20 months ago · Quote · #41

    pavster

    i love the four pawns!

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #43

    TheGreatOogieBoogie

    I read a Fischer game somewhere where Bobby Fischer cracked it.  The strategy involving a broad line of pawns is a flawed one, as any sharp player can crack it.  It's much better going for a small center and developing naturally. 

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #44

    Dutchday

    Well, I played the KID a lot and most people play the main lines (Mar del Plata/Bayonet) or the exchange line. I think most players simply don't know the theory or they think the broad centre lines are just too sharp. 

    The four pawns is probably not best and I've had more problems with the Saemisch or some other line that ties down the kingside early. The problem was probably not that these lines are so good: Rather I was not accustomed to it. I lost quite convincingly in one of these games to a talented player who is now rated 2350 or so. I've also come back with the same idea to beat people rated around 2000 with little problems.  

    There is a lot of shock value in the e4-f3-g4 setup. Suddenly black realizes he can't play f5 so easily and then he ends up with no counter play. This is likely to only happen to you a couple of times though. Fight back and white could end up looking a bit too loose.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #45

    topj

    pavster wrote:

    i love the four pawns!

    why do you play the KID then?

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #47

    1bander

    What about 9. ... Na6 / 9. ... a6         ?! Somebody play this lines ?!

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #48

    NimzoRoy

    I don't play the KID as Black, but as White I like the 4 Pawns Attack because it can turn what is normally a closed game into a semi-open or open game. BUT I realize that it's not the best way to maximize my winning chances, which are better with the other main lines. As Black I'd think most players wouldn't mind facing this line since it's less complex than the more popular choices

    5.Nf3 19,464
    43% 31.3% 25.7%
    5.f3 10,879
    43.8% 26.6% 29.6%
    5.Be2 10,338
    43.5% 30.3% 26.2%
    5.f4 2,900
    44.7% 26.3% 29%
     
  • 20 months ago · Quote · #49

    NimzoRoy

    ScorpionPackAttack wrote:

    I read a Fischer game somewhere where Bobby Fischer cracked it.  The strategy involving a broad line of pawns is a flawed one, as any sharp player can crack it.  It's much better going for a small center and developing naturally. 

    No kidding? And the proof of this (besides your unverified OPINION) is located where? For starters, lets see the alleged Fischer game. In everyone else's universe, The KID Four Pawns Attack is sound, if not necessarily the best option available for White

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #51

    konhidras

    I gave up on the KID coz of the four pawns and bayonet attacks. But i meet the KID as white with the Saemisch.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #52

    pavster

    i love playing AGAINST the four pawns. recently i have stopped playing the KID online, played the nimzo or queens indian

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #53

    topj

    sorry pavvy, my mistake

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #54

    Yohan_Saboba

    I do play the KID... I think in the 4 Pawns' Attack Black has a good resource in the Na6 lines, which allow him to play e5 anyway.

    What gives me the most trouble in the Samisch (5. f3).

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #55

    SmyslovFan

    Take a look at Letelier-Fischer. It's mentioned in My 60 Memorable games (#21). Perhaps Scorpion was talking abut that game.

     

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #56

    Yohan_Saboba

    Wow, it looked like he was getting rolled over around move 5. I'm surprised he didn't play d6 sooner!

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #58

    Yohan_Saboba

    Yes, I see it is good as a sacrifice, but *most* people would prefer to avoid the sacrifice I think...

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #60

    Yohan_Saboba

    Yes but sacs in the KID are typically geared towards an attack, not towards a draw...


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