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Hello Chess.com... have you notice that Grand Masters don't use the King's Gambit... Which one is better... King's or Queen's!!! Please explain your vote...
- Experienced with King's Gambit
- New to Queen's Gambit
Queen's gambit absolutely
In reality the Queen's gambit is not a real gambit (it can become a real gambit but white at the start can always retake the pawn) so it's attractive to higer rated players: often GM's don't wanto to play gambits becouse defencive teqniques have become more and more bettere during years as to get gambits unplayed at very high levels.
My personal favourite is the queen gambit( I don't use it as a real gambit): a more positional opening than the very tactical king's gambit. And I think the king's gambit is not very sound due to the fischer defence which seems very nice for black.
Queen's gambit absolutely
thank you very much :D
These two openings don't even have any remote similarities. The QG isn't quite a gambit and it leads to fairly solid positions. The wildest you can get in the QG is in the Semi-Slav Botvinnik as well as the Semi-Slav Anti Moscow.
The KG on the other hand is very tactical and wild. Very risky too, especially if black knows how to defend well.
Naturally as I play it, my vote goes for the QG. But it is played very often for a reason: Its good.
it is so rare to see QGA that its not much of a gambit anymore.
ok, i should play the QG more than...
Eric_C, isn't the main line 2...dxc4 3.e3 c5 Bxc4? I hardly see 3.e4 nowadays.
The main line is 3 Nf3 guys, and I don't think black holds the pawn even if he tries as hard as he can. Of course, there are numerous true gambit lines branching off of the QG if that's what white wants, but he certainly doesn't have to play it that way.
However, to whoever said the QGA isn't seen nowadays, that's completely false. I too used to think that ...dxc4 had little point if he doesn't even keep the pawn, but it's a completely viable opening. Black just improves his position while white regains the pawn, has ...c5 coming soon, and can develop his pieces more actively than in most QG's. White has more possibilities in the center, but it's an equal trade for black's solid structure and good development.
But there is TONS of counter's against QG!!! i think more than KG!!! but usually playing the KG it leaves it easily check mated while black can devolope castle...
White..i think...if he plays d4...i guess
3. e4 may not be the main line, but it should be. From my own experiences on ICCF, 3. e4 is white's best shot at a tactical win against the QGA.
That doesn't mean it should be main line. Also 3 e4 is a little less popular than the other moves.
Sure white can make it a real gambit with 3. e4 but I prefer the main line 3. Nf3. In this line, if black tries to hang on to that pawn, his position gets horrible and white eventually wins the pawn back:
It's just a matter of preference. I like both lines, as the e4 line often gives white great positional compensation and a nice initiative, but the quiet Nf3 lines are more consistent with my tastes, less "do or die".
if QG not accepted... it is not a gambit... but a trap... or just an opening :p
Back to the original poster-
King's Gambit and Queen's Gambit are night and day different. The King's gambit is a holdover from the romantic age of 19th century chess. It seeks to open the position immediately and start a vicious attack on the king side. The gambit is often followed up by additional material sacrifice to maintain the attack. Its an all or nothing, get a mate in the middle game or die trying system. Today the King's Gambit is rarely seen in grandmaster play.
The queen's gambit is the other end of the spectrum. Black often declines the gambit pawn with a variety of systems, or if it is accepted the pawn is returned in exchange for development and activity. Rather than a wild tactical slug fest the game is often more positional. Often the white attack comes in the form of queen side pressure or a minority pawn attack. Unlike the King's Gambit, the Queen's Gambit is played frequently at the highest levels. All 12 games in the recent World Championship between Topalov and Anand began with 1d4. Not all strickly speaking were gambits, but d4 and an early c4 are major elements of grandmaster play.
Actually, the QGA is pretty sound and its not like its a trap accepting it.
I am sure Boris Spassky would be interested to hear how bad the KG is.
I start all of my students (very inexperienced kids at a summer program) out on the KG because it forces a lot of tactical decisions early. The KG is rock solid up to the expert- early master level.
Chess.com database shows it dead even for white in master games, chess365 database shows the KG with a solid edge.
I dont think anyone is saying the KG is outright busted. It does show up in grandmaster play now and then. But so does just about everything. It is certainly not a common opening among upper level players. For a club level player with good tactical skills it is probably a very solid weapon.
The reason that many GMs avoid it however, is that it is somewhat risky in that if black defends against the onslaught white is often in lousy shape. The 365chess.com database actually does not show white with an edge at all. There are 526 masters games in that database that start 1 e4 e5 2 f4. White wins 27.2% and black wins 30.4%. Considering that 2 Nf3, 2 Nc3, and 2 Bc4 all score a full point more often for white, it is not surprising that, at least at master level, the king's gambit isn't played that often.
Queen's Gambit definitely, YEAH!
the king's gambit:
1) opens up the kingside WAY too much
2) to win you need to make tons of sacrifices and you might make mistakes
3) i hate the positions in the king's gambit
the queen's gambit:
1) you will ALWAYS gain the pawn back if your opponent takes it
2) you gain a LOT of center control, and your pieces develop amazingly fast
3) the positions are very amazing and powerful
4) the position give a hard time for black
HOPE THIS HELPS :)
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