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  • 18 months ago · Quote · #121

    Balachandar

    Surprised to not find Scandinavian Defence in the list. Everyone love to bash how black brings his queen early and wastes a move. 

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #122

    Oran_perrett

    tthe scandinavian defense is actually super solid

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #123

    TetsuoShima

    sorry got confused i thought the parham is the defense to it were you sac a pawn lol

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #124

    Jion_Wansu

    what about my opening (German)?

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #125

    Roeczak

    your opening (German) is bad, and it's not even your opening (german)

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #126

    TetsuoShima

    i dont really get the joke

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #127

    JJ077

    fred defence is the worst

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #128

    Salimi98

    you have mentioned a part of my repertoire!

    actually I have won lots of games with albin , cochrane, and traxlor and in my opinion they are very good opennings if you are not afraid of being down in material

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #129

    TheGreatOogieBoogie

    ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

    Order these, from worst to first: Traxler, Budapest, Cochrane, Englund, Halloween, Albin, and the Parham.

    Englund, Traxler, Cochrane, Parham, Halloween, Albin, and Budapest. 

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #130

    Fiveofswords

    parham, englund, traxler, haloween, albin, budapest, cochrane 

    I dont understand why you would rate parham highly...i always respond 2...nf6

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #131

    MetalRatel

    I ranked this in terms of proximity to an equal evaluation with bonus points for variance (complications!). Worst to best:

    1. Englund (-/+)

    2. Halloween (=/+ to -/+, or maybe just -+ if you analyze it to death with a computer in some long complicated line that nobody plays!)

    3. Cochrane (=/+)

    4. Albin (+/=)

    5. Budapest (+/=)

    6. Parham (= to =/+, objectively close to equal, but I like Black's practical chances better)

    7. Traxler (Unclear! Objectively, White may be better, but all the crazy complications push this to the top for me.)

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #132

    MetalRatel

    SmyslovFan wrote:

    The Parham, 1.e4 e5 2.Qh4? is a joke opening, but it's not losing.


    I like Black's winning chances after a swift 2...Qxh4, hoping White does not notice he made an illegal move.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #133

    Irontiger

    Salimi98 wrote:

    you have mentioned a part of my repertoire!

    actually I have won lots of games with albin , cochrane, and traxlor and in my opinion they are very good opennings if you are not afraid of being down in material

    I have won lots of games with utter rubbish, it does not make it any better even to my own eyes.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #134

    MetalRatel

    therearenonamesleft wrote:
    MetalRatel wrote:

    I ranked this in terms of proximity to an equal evaluation with bonus points for variance (complications!). Worst to best:

    7. Traxler (Unclear! Objectively, White may be better, but all the crazy complications push this to the top for me.)

    I think it is losing. I don't know why you would say it is best.

    I know a lot of people claim it is refuted. Taking into account the number of strong players who are willing to play it OTB, at the very least it deserves to be in the top three here. Of the openings listed, this would probably be the one I'd mostly likely play, but I tend to avoid lines with a ridiculous amount of do-or-die tactical decisions and forced draws. I am no expert in the Traxler and play it for neither side. Please register your complaints with Ris and Alterman. ;)

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #136

    Scottrf

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  • 4 months ago · Quote · #137

    Scottrf

    Not really a blunder, a sac. I don't see the need to sac a pawn against that opening though. But black will get quite a development lead.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #138

    blueemu

    ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
    Fiveofswords wrote:

    parham, englund, traxler, haloween, albin, budapest, cochrane 

    I dont understand why you would rate parham highly...i always respond 2...nf6

    Curious - I thought the Parham was 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 -- so isn't 2...Nf6 a blunder because of 3.Qxe5+

    ?

    In the 365chess online database, 2. ... Nf6 actually has a higher winning percentage for Black than 2. ... Nc6.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #139

    LongIslandMark

    I actually prefer 2...Nf6 myself. Then 3. Qxe5 Be7. Usually followed by 4...0-0.

  • 4 months ago · Quote · #140

    MetalRatel

    FM Dennis Monokroussos has recommended 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Nf6!?:

    http://www.chessvideos.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5912

    It's cute, but maybe a bit unnecessary.

    Also interesting is 2.Qh5 Nc6 3.Bc4 g6 4.Qf3 f5!?. Hint: Taking the pawn is probably dubious.

    Naturally, 4...Nf6 is a simple and strong response. It can be instructive for beginners to see why 5.Qb3? Nd4!-+ is losing.

    If you like to be creative, 2...d6 also scores well. Black can develop the knight to d7 and play ...c6 with ideas of ...b5 or ...d5.

    There a lot of good ideas. Just don't get too creative or overambitious. Let White do that and prepare to reap the rewards. :)


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