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4moveloss
This is how I played it in a game i played yesterday
OMGdidIrealyjustsact
For white it looks like vienna game where white has actively developed the bishop before moveing the f pawn. It can't be bad.
KillaBeez
It's worse than a Vienna game because Black has total control of the d4 square. And that's usually the problem with your usual Vienna.
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2.Bc4 is much weaker than 2.Nf3
2...Nc6 is much weaker than 2...Nf6
3.Nc3 is much weaker than 3.Nf3
4.d3 is weaker than 4.Nf3
4...Bb4 is weaker than both Na5 and Bb4
5.Bg5 is weaker than both Nge2 and Nf3
5...h6 is very good for black.
6.Bxf6 Bxc3+ 7.bxc3 Qxf6 and black has a winning game.
Avoid this opening as white if you want to win.
Justify please. Sure, these moves don't follow fashion but that doesn't make them worse like you've asserted.
Nightshadow
looks like a transposition into a vienna gambit-ish game.
Nytik
Ouachita- I don't think that 2. Bc4 is worse than 2. Nf3. I'd value them as equal. What is your evidence of such a claim?
Well, that seems slightly unfair- you completely outrate me, so I'm bound to lose no matter what my first moves are! But, I will take up your challenge.
NM Reb
I dont think 2 Bc4 is a bad move. According to chess assistant it scores the same % for white that 2 Nf3 does. I have played 2 Bc4 here in more than 10 games myself and have not lost with it yet.
chessguy254
O I see, if you have a bad history with an opening and you have good history with another, one is better than the other?!? Completely inaccurate and absurd way to justify your claim
BFM
I personally cant quite agree with that part. The line you mentioned scores equally for both sides at grandmaster game database, which should say that Black probably has an advantage, but not a win.
Unless he (as an under 1400 player) plans to use it against top level players who can convert any advantage to a win, I dont think using that opening prevents him from winning any game (if he himself feels comfortable with it).
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