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7th May 2008, 12:51pm
#1
by chesschamp1020
mid west United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 102

is it any good also is it original?


7th May 2008, 12:53pm
#2
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1009

I read somewhere that there was no point looking for a new opening as everything has already been done.

Not sure if it's true, but it certainly sounds reasonable.


7th May 2008, 12:59pm
#3
by PerfectGent
St Andrews Scotland
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 731
would be easier to assess the opening if you included the pgn that lead to the position.
7th May 2008, 01:00pm
#4
by chesschamp1020
mid west United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 102
how do i add the pgn???
7th May 2008, 01:05pm
#5
by chesschamp1020
mid west United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 102
well i moved the pawns to fianchetto the bishops
7th May 2008, 01:15pm
#6
by PerfectGent
St Andrews Scotland
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 731
instead of pasting in the fen line post the pgn from the prog you are using to create the position.
7th May 2008, 01:27pm
#7
by likesforests
United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2982

This opening looks silly. Even if both sides deployed their knights before anything else, after 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 your opponent isn't going to mirror g4 or b4, he's simply going to pick off the hanging pawns with an easy win to follow.


7th May 2008, 01:32pm
#8
by matzleeach
Chicago IL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 582
This is crazy! hahaha... Ok I'm interested in the opening theory of your new found opening. Please enlight me...share with us the goal or advantage your are trying to accomplish and don't forget to apply opening principles. You are not the first beginner on the site that came up with an opening...and probably not the last Yell 
7th May 2008, 01:43pm
#9
by BirdBrain
KY United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 503

This opening is not practical...it looks like you are more interested in symmetrical openings than understanding imbalances...get Silman's How to Reassess Your Chess and gain some understanding of why you play certain moves, and then try to devise an opening plan.  Or better yet, pick a plan that GMs have dedicated countless hours of study to, like the Ruy Lopez or the Queen's Gambit, and pick one solid line within it, and learn how to develop.  Then you won't try ideas with "pointless" pawn moves - it is easy to see that the knight pawns are hanging.

But at least you are trying.  Maybe you ought to look into Owen's defense with b6 Bb7 and g6 Bg7, controlling the center from the flanks.  The pawns aren't quite so endangered like in your opening with b5 and g5.  Then from there you can proceed with moves like e6 and d6, Nd7 and Ne7, and 0-0 and attack the center with c5 or f5.


7th May 2008, 01:59pm
#10
by madpawn
England
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 53
Apart from the hanging pawns, you would also have unsafe kings and white and black square weaknesses.  Good though, because you have made a real big step on your way to chess stardom Grashopper.
7th May 2008, 02:24pm
#11
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1263
Evil_Homer wrote:

I read somewhere that there was no point looking for a new opening as everything has already been done.

Not sure if it's true, but it certainly sounds reasonable.


Well, I created an opening called the Burris Gambit against the Caro-Kann and it even made its way onto an encyclopedia by that name.  Many people who I show it to begin playing it almost immediately and have great results.  So that statement is not true.


7th May 2008, 02:35pm
#12
by futuregm23
Chicago United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 300
KillaBeez wrote: Evil_Homer wrote:

I read somewhere that there was no point looking for a new opening as everything has already been done.

Not sure if it's true, but it certainly sounds reasonable.


Well, I created an opening called the Burris Gambit against the Caro-Kann and it even made its way onto an encyclopedia by that name.  Many people who I show it to begin playing it almost immediately and have great results.  So that statement is not true.


 can you please post "the Burris gambit"?


7th May 2008, 02:38pm
#13
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1009
KillaBeez wrote: Evil_Homer wrote:

I read somewhere that there was no point looking for a new opening as everything has already been done.

Not sure if it's true, but it certainly sounds reasonable.


Well, I created an opening called the Burris Gambit against the Caro-Kann and it even made its way onto an encyclopedia by that name.  Many people who I show it to begin playing it almost immediately and have great results.  So that statement is not true.


Thanks for the heads up. :-)


7th May 2008, 02:42pm
#14
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1009
7th May 2008, 02:45pm
#15
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 2165
KillaBeez wrote:

Well, I created an opening called the Burris Gambit against the Caro-Kann and it even made its way onto an encyclopedia by that name.  Many people who I show it to begin playing it almost immediately and have great results.  So that statement is not true.


 Alekhine won a game in 1936 with what you call the "Burris Gambit". So, I have to ask, how old are you to have been the first to try this idea? ;-)


7th May 2008, 02:46pm
#16
by young_roy123
Germany
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 179
thats stupid and you would never get that off facing a good opponent anyways. i just wasted a minute of my life looking at this
7th May 2008, 03:04pm
#17
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1263
I never said I was the first to try it.  I was unaware that Alekhine played that opening.  But it had not been named yet, so I guess I named it and provided a little bit more analysis on the gambit.  So if Alekhine played it, it has to be good.  And it is never mentioned in any books on the Caro-Kann so it has very good surprise value.
7th May 2008, 03:35pm
#18
by matzleeach
Chicago IL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 582

KillaBeez

How did you come up with that name? Also you said that you create the Burris Gambit opening not name it!


7th May 2008, 08:49pm
#19
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 2165
1. h4! gets an exclam because it allows white to push the f and g pawns without getting mated on h4, but 2. h5? is just pointless.
7th May 2008, 08:55pm
#20
by demoliti0n
Santiago Chile
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 74
i don't like it :/
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