Na3>> A00 Tapel-TomasOpening Launch!

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9th July 2009, 08:26pm
#121
by ChessTrainor
MetroManila Philippines
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 883

13.ChessTrainor(1569) vs fw230/USA(2018) [1-0] 19 moves mate,.

site:chess.com/date:July 10,2009(Friday)In Phils. time

THis  is Today.just a few minutes ago!He asked for a rematch,i said yahoo first 8 moves win then 19 moves mate.Wow!!!When i smell mate wether higher rated or lower rated my blood pumps adrenalin and relentessly pursue mate,iregardless of what i may sacrifice,i can't help it i'm a berserk attacker!

10th July 2009, 05:19am
#122
by PaladinIsBack192
Canada
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 133

Stop frigging posting your stupid games with patzers. Put some explanation.

10th July 2009, 05:37am
#123
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 4117

You know, its bad enough when strong players are arrogant but when hacks are......well, its comical and unbearable both !  Undecided

10th July 2009, 06:40pm
#124
by ChessTrainor
MetroManila Philippines
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 883
PaladinIsBack192 wrote:

Stop frigging posting your stupid games with patzers. Put some explanation.

 


Na3 and c3move also,a deterrent and very strong defense.

13.ChessTrainor(1569) vs fw230/USA(2018) [1-0] 19 moves mate,.

site:chess.com/date:July 10,2009(Friday)In Phils. time

THis  is Today.just a few minutes ago!He asked for a rematch,i said yahoo first 8 moves win then 19 moves mate.Wow!!!When i smell mate wether higher rated or lower rated my blood pumps adrenalin and relentessly pursue mate,iregardless of what i may sacrifice,i can't help it i'm a berserk attacker!

Paladinis cannot even beat those he calls patzers,a loud mouth weak player,yeah,a strong critic,that's all what he is.Even if u did not ask for it ill give some insight,I hope your brain could understand simple explanations.

In this game,CT (1569)Philippines vs.fw230(2018)USA,where my opponent was rapidly checkmated in 19 moves.1-0 white wins.His fourth move 4....Nc6 is totally deterred or banned from any good squares.If Nc6 goes-Na4 cannot proceed to b3 guarded by a2 and the White's Queen.and Nc6-c4 is guarded by Na3 and d3 pawn.Another place where Nc6 could land is totally guarded by the c3 pawn and Nf3.And if however the d5 pawn advances the c3 pawn will just wait for it and itself be captured,Why,because...dxc3 and then,bxc3.The b pawn automatically replaces the c3 pawn as the guard and Na3 is automatically guarded or supported by the Queen's bishop on c1.Any Queen attack on queenside will be met by the white Queen also .If Qb6,then Qb3 or Qc2.No advantage whatsoever.Then countering with Rb1 or Nc4.[A00] Tapel-Tomas Opening chess insights.ChessTrainor.

10th July 2009, 08:22pm
#125
by PaladinIsBack192
Canada
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 133

Just so u noe my FIDE rating is 1922 (or was it 1932... ah can remember, havent played seriously in a month) and i can easily beat u OTB. unfortunately i forgot to TURN OFF the fixed move setting... dang.. anyway, ur Na3 will be owned. find some time but make it quick cuz in 1 week i have a project to complete for my boss

11th July 2009, 06:55pm
#126
by ChessTrainor
MetroManila Philippines
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 883
PaladinIsBack192 wrote:

Just so u noe my FIDE rating is 1922 (or was it 1932... ah can remember, havent played seriously in a month) and i can easily beat u OTB. unfortunately i forgot to TURN OFF the fixed move setting... dang.. anyway, ur Na3 will be owned. find some time but make it quick cuz in 1 week i have a project to complete for my boss


I'm not particular with your rating,as proven and recorded by the chess.com databases and other internet chess sites your rating is very beatable ,Everyone losses,no exception,especially if I use my Na3 which when I useit  has a 90% batting average to win,let's not talk, let's play,and please dont hide like Elubas,when i challenge him he evaded and hide.ChessTrainor,Remember This Topic is Na3 versus the world and that definitely includes you.same

12th July 2009, 12:25pm
#127
by Elubas
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2543

Well actually challenge me Chess Trainor.

22nd July 2009, 06:45pm
#128
by ChessTrainor
MetroManila Philippines
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 883
Reb wrote:

Fischer only knew/played 4 major openings?!  As black only he played gruenfeld, kid, benoni and najdorf sicilian,  thats 4 !! You obviously dont know what you are talking about and have no chess "credentials" yourself. As white he was well known for the Ruy Lopez and the sozin attack against several sicilian set ups. Fischer also played the nimzo-indian, even having a variation named after him. He also played semi-Tarrasch as black several times in his career, I wont even bother going more into his white repertoire as I think you have enough egg on your face already.


When I talk about Opening,I mean that is only refering to white.Opening that refers to black are called Defenses our Counter Gambits in general,So REb is misleading.So when Opening is called an Opening or Gambit or even Attack it is generally referred to White moves.It is because white moves first.Since Black moves second or in response to White,it is generally called Defense.

Fischer's Opening Moves(First move choice)

1.e4>King's Pawn Opening(General)

2.f3>Nemenyi Opening

3.c4>English Opening

4.b3>nimzo-Larsen Opening

Never did Fischer use a d4 as a first choice move.I got a copy of Fischer's 1956 to 1992 Official game tournament(all of it).When it was first posted in Fischer's website.My sister who is a computer engineer downloaded that file for a period of three months.There are only 20 (20 ONLY,if REB will tell you otherwise beside that,he must be a joke,or maybe is losing his marbles)

HERE are the ONLY 20 FIRST MOVE Opening THAT CAN DONE WITH WHITE PIECES.

1.a3

2.a4

3.Na3

4.b3

5.b4

6.c3

7.c4

8.Nc3

9.d3

10.d4

11.e3

12.e4

13.f3

14.f4

15.Nf3

16.g3

17.g4

18.h3

19.h4

20.Nh3

There are no more besides these(CT)

My Opening are these>>NA3,B3,C4,D4,E4,NF3,F4(WITH E4 as second move) andH4.(SAME)

 

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22nd July 2009, 06:57pm
#129
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 4673
ChessTrainor wrote:

Fischer's Opening Moves(First move choice)

1.e4>King's Pawn Opening(General)

2.f3>Nemenyi Opening

3.c4>English Opening

4.b3>nimzo-Larsen Opening

Never did Fischer use a d4 as a first choice move.


Actually, Fischer played d4 twice. And I don't recall a professional game where Fischer played f3.

His ACTUAL first moves as white were:

1. e4 (518 games)

1. Nf3 (19 games)

1. c4 (7 games)

1. b3 (4 games)

1. b4 (3 games)

1. d4 (2 games)

1. f4 (1 game)

1. g3 (1 game)

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So you are incorrect. It does say something for Fischer's opinion of d4 when we note that he has played b4 more times professionally!

6th August 2009, 11:34pm
#130
by ericrobert_yap
laguna Philippines
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 3

nice invention of opening coach ^^

7th August 2009, 03:52am
#131
by AnthonyCG
Washington DC United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2800
Every opening has already been classified and played. Now you can only find novelties in variations of the openings or maybe create new ones. No doubt someone played 1.Na3 long before ECO came around.
7th August 2009, 09:51am
#132
by Conquiscador
Miami United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 618

Here is my game to illustrate why 1.Na3 is bad.

My opponent used your theory as well.

7th August 2009, 10:28am
#133
by ASpieboy
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Canada
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 1488

I think Na3 is playable, but not the way ChessTrainor is using it.

7th August 2009, 10:59am
#134
by Elubas
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2543

The way chess trainor uses it, it is completely unsound. If a very strong player was forced to play the move and make the most out of it, it would be playable, but still not a good choice.

7th August 2009, 11:42am
#135
by AnthonyCG
Washington DC United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2800
Every opening is playable, but some are tougher than others.
7th August 2009, 01:30pm
#136
by Ihatesleeves
International
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 10

Chesstrainors is stupifying me with his insistance that Na3 is a good move, and then posting a bunch of games that seem to prove its a bad move.

Can you please post a game, not a blitz game where you got a quick mate, where Na3 has influence on the later game?


My opinion on the opening below

Honestly I could see Na3 being a good way to get to b5/c4/c2, but I just don't understand why you would commit the knight to a3 from the getgo.  Why not play it out, with say d4, and see if Na3 has a point later?

7th August 2009, 01:58pm
#137
by gxtmf1
Mundelein United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 1304
ChessTrainor wrote:
Reb wrote:

Fischer only knew/played 4 major openings?!  As black only he played gruenfeld, kid, benoni and najdorf sicilian,  thats 4 !! You obviously dont know what you are talking about and have no chess "credentials" yourself. As white he was well known for the Ruy Lopez and the sozin attack against several sicilian set ups. Fischer also played the nimzo-indian, even having a variation named after him. He also played semi-Tarrasch as black several times in his career, I wont even bother going more into his white repertoire as I think you have enough egg on your face already.


When I talk about Opening,I mean that is only refering to white.Opening that refers to black are called Defenses our Counter Gambits in general,So REb is misleading.So when Opening is called an Opening or Gambit or even Attack it is generally referred to White moves.It is because white moves first.Since Black moves second or in response to White,it is generally called Defense.

Fischer's Opening Moves(First move choice)

1.e4>King's Pawn Opening(General)

2.f3>Nemenyi Opening

3.c4>English Opening

4.b3>nimzo-Larsen Opening

Never did Fischer use a d4 as a first choice move.I got a copy of Fischer's 1956 to 1992 Official game tournament(all of it).When it was first posted in Fischer's website.My sister who is a computer engineer downloaded that file for a period of three months.There are only 20 (20 ONLY,if REB will tell you otherwise beside that,he must be a joke,or maybe is losing his marbles)

HERE are the ONLY 20 FIRST MOVE Opening THAT CAN DONE WITH WHITE PIECES.

1.a3

2.a4

3.Na3

4.b3

5.b4

6.c3

7.c4

8.Nc3

9.d3

10.d4

11.e3

12.e4

13.f3

14.f4

15.Nf3

16.g3

17.g4

18.h3

19.h4

20.Nh3

There are no more besides these(CT)

My Opening are these>>NA3,B3,C4,D4,E4,NF3,F4(WITH E4 as second move) andH4.(SAME)

 

9.


Uhm, many openings are more than 1 move. And Fischer played 1. Nf3. That would be 5 openings, except I don't believe Fischer (Bobby Fischer) ever played 1. f3, which last time I checked was not called the "Nemenyi" but the Gedult Opening/ Barnes' Opening. Additionally, one of Fischer's early favorites was the King's Indian Attack beginning with 1. e4. And may I just ask, out of curiosity, why the heck you play 1. h4? Is that just supposed to take your opponents  out of book lines, because I don't see any tactical advantages to it as an opening move, other than a crude and pedantic pawn march attack down the h-file or posting a bishop on g5. If you want a Bishop on g5, simply play 1. d4 2. Bg5 (Levitsky Attack) after which 3. h4?! is perfectly playable in many situations.

7th August 2009, 02:15pm
#138
by gxtmf1
Mundelein United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 1304
ouachita wrote:

Na3?, easily the worst move in chess openings. Rivaled only by g4, d3, h4, b4, nh3, etc.


Ooh, sounds like a challenge ChessTrainor.

7th August 2009, 05:11pm
#139
by Elubas
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2543

Yeah play him!

7th August 2009, 05:13pm
#140
by Elubas
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2543
chesscomaccount wrote:

I'm with the C train on this one, and I believe the burden of proof is on the prosecution.  Just listen to your heart.


Wrong. You think that chess trainor can say whatever he wants without providing analysis move by move considering the best replies (like in real opening theory) at all on how the move is so logical? Why should you believe what he says if he can get lucky wins and wins against lower rated players sometimes?


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