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Need help beating the Maroczy bind


  • 13 months ago · Quote · #1

    Candypants

    I play the accelerated dragon with great success. However when I face maroczy bind against a strong opponent (2200+ elo) I get squeezed slowly and I am having trouble finding some active plans. Is there anyway to spice things up and make things crazy?

    I am very strong in tactics and complex positions but the lack of space I get from maroczy isnt really my way to play. I am thinking about switching to the normal dragon just so I can avoid maroczy but I like accelerated dragon more except for the maroczy bind.

    Could anyone please give me some ideas how to get some active plans in the maroczy? :)

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #2

    CHCL

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #4

    uhohspaghettio

    No OP you can't have everything, you can't have: 1) allow the Maroczy bind 2) obtain a highly active and tactical position 3) against high rated players. 

    The Maroczy bind confounded theoreticians for many years until they finally found playable tries against it, if there were some sharp tactics that would suffice they would have discovered it spontaneously and we would all know about them.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #5

    jambyvedar

    The variation you are facing is where white will put his pawn on  b3 and f3 right?

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #6

    ghostofmaroczy

    Do you already know this variation?

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #8

    Candypants

    i know variation ghostofmaroczy posted (i still dont like my game as black) but what if:

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #9

    SimonWebbsTiger

    there is a perhaps dubious idea involving Ng8-h6 with the idea of f7-f5. Spassky played it from time to time.

    Bent Larsen is always good for ideas, whilst Petrosian had a knack of playing both sides!

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #10

    blake78613

    SimonWebbsTiger wrote:

    there is a perhaps dubious idea involving Ng8-h6 with the idea of f7-f5. Spassky played it from time to time.

    Bent Larsen is always good for ideas, whilst Petrosian had a knack of playing both sides!

    I recall Spassy played against it.  I think Soltis  called it the Furman debind.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #11

    knightrider25

    Some ideas from a book by David Levy & Kevin O'Connell: 1) black plays ...f5 pawn break; game example is Furman vs Spassky USSR 1957 - Spassky played f5 on move 8 putting pressure on white's center and black had an active position by move 13, with a winning attack by move 20. White resigned on move 24. Find game on www.chessgames.com or by google-ing. Another idea from the book follows in separate post.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #12

    knightrider25

    Another idea from the book by David Levy & Kevin O'Connell suggested ...b5  as the most successful (at least at that time) pawn advance against the MB with a black KB fianchetto. Game examples: Cardoso vs Adorjan 1975 and Andersson vs Najdorf 1971.  Find games on www.chessgames.com or by google-ing.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #13

    knightrider25

    Also you might be interested in the 5 part article by Tim Taylor "How to Beat a Grandmaster" on www.jeremysilman.com. He writes about his agony in playing the accelerated dragon against the MB while in a GM norm event in Budapest. It might not be the answer to your problem, but it is good reading. Hope the old games and the Taylor aritcle are inspiring to you.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #15

    blake78613

    One of the main ideas for Black is to make it to the endgame when White's darksquare weakness becomes a real liability.   One of Black's goals is to exchange his dark square bishop.  Some White players foolishly are very helpful here and will play bishop to h6 with the Queen on d2 and then wonder why they lost.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #16

    Baddbishop

    Probably need another variation against stronger players....

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #17

    jambyvedar

    Natalia_Pogonina wrote:

    Maroczy bind is the reason why so few strong players employ the Accelerated Dragon. White has the upper hand there...

    Yup, but I found it funny that authors Suba and Watson in their books make it as  MB is not a big deal..Or perhaps, I can't remember correct, there MB example might not be against the Accelerated Dragon...

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #18

    ArtyTheBull

    maelith wrote:
    Natalia_Pogonina wrote:

    Maroczy bind is the reason why so few strong players employ the Accelerated Dragon. White has the upper hand there...

    Yup, but I found it funny that authors Suba and Watson in their books make it as  MB is not a big deal..Or perhaps, I can't remember correct, there MB example might not be against the Accelerated Dragon...

    Suba's a devoted hedgehogger!  You don't carve out a career as that sort of player unless you like the types of positions black gets in the bind.


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