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New Opening Suggestions?


  • 4 years ago · Quote · #1

    JoelWD

    I’m playing a match this Tuesday against somebody on my high school team for first board (it is 1-1 right now, next game wins and I am white). He knows I always play English so I figured I might as well learn something new and unorthodox to throw his game off. I’m not sure if it helps but I like to play defensive and he is the type of person that will trade off as much as possible to jump to end game (he knows I’m fairly week there).

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #2

    chessthekid

    hmmmm my suggestion is e4

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #3

    heracrossx

    e4 is the most orthodox opening there is. Do you mean unorthodox openings?

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #4

    JoelWD

    My bad, for some reason I thought orthodox meant unordinary.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #5

    thekingandi

    well you could start off with c4 and then lead into something that has c4 in the opening but is not the english that way he thinks you're going with your old standard

     

    maybe something like a queen's gambit where you follow up with d4

    or do the bird's opening.. just like the english but flipped

    f4, kn-f3, b3, b-b2

    i'm a fan of the english, but i find that the bird's first move, f4 discourages black from opening with e5

    if you found he usually likes his e-pawn to e5 this may throw him or try being a little more agressive.. try ruy lopez

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #6

    JoelWD

    Bird's opening sounds good, he loves E5 but I'm not exactly sure how he will react if I start with F4.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #7

    heracrossx

    With f4, he can reply 1... e5?! (as you said, his favorite move) otherwise known as From's gambit which leads to a tactical game.

    My suggestion is the opening I use, the Ponziani (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3!?) as it is tricky, confusing, and has many opening traps.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #8

    rabio

    I prefer to play e4 e5 g3. I've never seen anyone else play it it allows you to get your bishop out by g2, and you can d3 to defend the pawn without blocking your bishop
  • 4 years ago · Quote · #9

    gxtmf1

    Hungarian will slow things down

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #10

    JoelWD

    heracrossx wrote:

    With f4, he can reply 1... e5?! (as you said, his favorite move) otherwise known as From's gambit which leads to a tactical game.

    My suggestion is the opening I use, the Ponziani (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3!?) as it is tricky, confusing, and has many opening traps.


    Why C3? What happens if he does NF6?

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #11

    heracrossx

    Here are a few Nf6 lines of the Ponziani. It appears to be a gambit, but you earn the pawn back.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #12

    atomichicken

    HoboKombat wrote:

    a4 or h4

    Or a4 AND h4, crab it up.


    Were you being serious? You probably were joking, but I just want to make sure.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #13

    Ray_Brooks

    atomichicken wrote:
    HoboKombat wrote:

    a4 or h4

    Or a4 AND h4, crab it up.


    Were you being serious? You probably were joking, but I just want to make sure.


    No, he is not joking, I witnessed a game today on Live Chess where HoboKombat played  a5 and h5 as his first two moves, whilst playing the Black pieces.

    p.s. http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/never-posted-a-game-before-thought-you-guys-might-enjoy-this-one2

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #14

    Immanuel

    Play the exchange variation of the Ruy Lopez (if he lets you): 1 e4 e5; 2 Nf3 Nc6; 3 Bb5 then exchange.  He will have two bishops (a middle game advantage) but you will have the pawn majority on the kingside (an endgame advantage) while his pawn majority on the queenside is ruined.  If he moves quickly into the endgame with exchanges you will have the advantage.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #15

    Assassin2142

    Immanuel wrote:

    Play the exchange variation of the Ruy Lopez (if he lets you): 1 e4 e5; 2 Nf3 Nc6; 3 Bb5 then exchange.  He will have two bishops (a middle game advantage) but you will have the pawn majority on the kingside (an endgame advantage) while his pawn majority on the queenside is ruined.  If he moves quickly into the endgame with exchanges you will have the advantage.


     I agree. As long as your middle game is good, then this opening works well. All you need to do is play it smart, make good choices, and it's an easy win (For highschool) I just recently won mine a couple weeks a go. First 10th grader ever to win. =)

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #16

    atomichicken

    Ray_Brooks wrote:
    atomichicken wrote:
    HoboKombat wrote:

    a4 or h4

    Or a4 AND h4, crab it up.


    Were you being serious? You probably were joking, but I just want to make sure.


    No, he is not joking, I witnessed a game today on Live Chess where HoboKombat played  a5 and h5 as his first two moves, whilst playing the Black pieces.

    p.s. http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/never-posted-a-game-before-thought-you-guys-might-enjoy-this-one2


    OK, well as wonderful as that strategy is I certainly won't be using it any time soon Smile.

     

    p.s. I didn't look at the link because I was worried my eyes would start bleeding!

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #17

    Mainline_Novelty

    Ray_Brooks wrote:
    atomichicken wrote:
    HoboKombat wrote:

    a4 or h4

    Or a4 AND h4, crab it up.


    Were you being serious? You probably were joking, but I just want to make sure.


    No, he is not joking, I witnessed a game today on Live Chess where HoboKombat played  a5 and h5 as his first two moves, whilst playing the Black pieces.

    p.s. http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/never-posted-a-game-before-thought-you-guys-might-enjoy-this-one2


    what th heck???????? the link leads to chess.com forums

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #18

    atomichicken

    aabbccdd wrote:
    Ray_Brooks wrote:
    atomichicken wrote:
    HoboKombat wrote:

    a4 or h4

    Or a4 AND h4, crab it up.


    Were you being serious? You probably were joking, but I just want to make sure.


    No, he is not joking, I witnessed a game today on Live Chess where HoboKombat played  a5 and h5 as his first two moves, whilst playing the Black pieces.

    p.s. http://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/never-posted-a-game-before-thought-you-guys-might-enjoy-this-one2


    what th heck???????? the link leads to chess.com forums


    Yeah that happens to me loads of the time when I try and click on a thread it just takes me straight to the forum options instead of the thread I clicked on.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #19

    Ray_Brooks

    When I posted last night it took me to HoboKombat's game, I checked it (as I always do). Now it does as you describe... let me investigate.

     

    EDIT: Ok, it seems our rather gung-ho friend (HoboKombat) has suddenly become a little gun shy and taken down his previously posted game, hence the blind link.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #20

    atomichicken

    Ray_Brooks wrote:

    When I posted last night it took me to HoboKombat's game, I checked it (as I always do). Now it does as you describe... let me investigate.


    It happens with me on lots of other threads too, so I think it may just be a site bug.


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