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4th May 2009, 05:31am
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by ShiViChess
United States
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4th May 2009, 05:39am
#2
by ShiViChess
United States
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It looks like this:

4th May 2009, 05:45am
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by ShiViChess
United States
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Variants include:

9...Be6 Qh5+ (Normal Variation)

9...Bf5 10. Re1 (Bishop-Knight Pin Variation)

9...Bg4 10. Re1 Be6 (Queen-Bishop Variation Accepted)

9...Bg4 f3 Be6 (Queen-Bishop Variation Declined)

4th May 2009, 05:53am
#4
by Simendo
Oslo Norway
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And what do you accomplish by sacrificing all those pieces? Wink

4th May 2009, 05:58am
#5
by waverley
besançon France
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Ok, but what about 3. Nxe5 (instead of 3. Bc4)?

This is called the Damiano (2. ... f6) and white will play Qh4+ if 3. ... fxe5. 4. Qh4+ and if 4. ... g6 5.Qxe5 winning the exchange as Rh8 will fall. Otherwise 4. ... Ke7 and still 5. Qxe5 and white are much better placed anyway

4th May 2009, 06:03am
#6
by ShiViChess
United States
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Hey its a really new one plus you got a good Q+R mating combo... I'll leave it up 2 u 2 move the queen

4th May 2009, 06:13am
#7
by Skeptikill
Ireland Ireland
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some  advice is to stick to the opening analysis already done by all the GM's and masters and study them rather than try and create something new. As if its not already been played/named/studied then its not good enough

4th May 2009, 06:18am
#8
by ShiViChess
United States
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the dutt gambit and all variations are probably gonna become one of those openings not played often like vienna game and one of those which makes you lose like halloween gambit... i see everybody elses points, but i also see mine, i am like that

4th May 2009, 06:26am
#9
by yugilover
Israel
Member Since: May 2009
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Skeptikill wrote:

some advice is to stick to the opening analysis already done by all the GM's and masters and study them rather than try and create something new. As if its not already been played/named/studied then its not good enough


that is very wrong we should creat new openings new moves then how we will be good players         chess is not studying only

4th May 2009, 06:31am
#10
by yipihipyeah
Miramont-de-Guyenne France
Member Since: Apr 2009
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and after? what middle of game? i'll never play this openning...

4th May 2009, 07:59am
#11
by swiniaWkosmosie
Kraków Poland
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In this variation play 3. Nxd5!!

4th May 2009, 08:05am
#12
by rab63
? Scotland
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I am sorry but that is not new

4th May 2009, 08:14am
#13
by Scarblac
Arnhem Netherlands
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yugilover wrote:

that is very wrong we should creat new openings new moves then how we will be good players         chess is not studying only


First learn to play a little bit better than total beginner level (like don't give away pieces at random), THEN think about creating new things.

4th May 2009, 08:42am
#14
by ShiViChess
United States
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swiniaWkosmosie wrote:

In this variation play 3. Nxd5!!


 That is old, it is an old fork/scholar's mate

4th May 2009, 08:51am
#15
by ASpieboy
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Canada
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Openings are a little more than simply throwing pieces at pawns and then charging with rooks.

22nd May 2009, 06:43pm
#16
by by-jin
aa Kazakhstan
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swiniaWkosmosie wrote:

 

In this variation play 3. Nxd5!!

 


this

23rd May 2009, 01:56pm
#17
by benedictus
Buenos Aires Argentina
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 777

In the first game that was posted, after 10. Re1+, there isn't any real danger. Black can play 10... Ne7 and there's no positional advantage (maybe a tiny bit for white) and black is up a bishop, a knight, and a pawn. Unless black makes a very stupid mistake, white is going to lose.

23rd May 2009, 02:00pm
#18
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 4402
Skeptikill wrote:

some  advice is to stick to the opening analysis already done by all the GM's and masters and study them rather than try and create something new. As if its not already been played/named/studied then its not good enough


Not true. (Although in this case, a good application.) An excellent example of good opening theory shunned by grandmasters is the Bird's Opening. Black will be able to do no more than reach a drawn position with correct play, and yet very little has been analysed. Anyone could come along and suggest a new, excellent move to add to the theory.

11th June 2009, 11:29pm
#19
by donngerard
Cebu Philippines
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is it really effective?

13th June 2009, 08:20am
#20
by mydixiewrecked
Aurora, CO United States
Member Since: Jun 2009
Member Points: 62

Clearly the Butt Gambit would be a more proper name. Both players would have to be complete buttheads to play it.

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