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New Opening?


  • 14 months ago · Quote · #1

    vowles_23

    Maybe "new" is too strong of a word, but it's never been played in a master vs master game, according to 365chess.com.

    I played it today and won with it, I must admit it wasn't a brilliant game, but was good enough. Houdini evaluates the position as +0.15. 

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #2

    vowles_23

    Although it has been played in a few non-master games, apparently.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #3

    jason17

    What move did you play next? It still looks really unclear to a newb like me. I have no idea where I would go from here.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #4

    ProVteur

    6 Bf4 is a lot better I think

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #5

    echecs06

    If you have Houdini, what the heck do you need us for???

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #6

    mwzhou

    Thats just a slav defence except with an ugly 4... a6

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #7

    vowles_23

    gmitchel850 wrote:

    It's nothing new. Been played a lot! It's called the Slav Defense. It's mainline, right up to white's play on move 4. The play didn't get offbeat until move 5 by black and novel until move 7.


    I know that it's the Slav Defence... I even put that in the annotations... -.-

    New opening- variation, you know what I mean.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #8

    vowles_23

    mwzhou wrote:

    Thats just a slav defence except with an ugly 4... a6


    Actually, it is fairly common at master level.

    http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/D15_Slav_Defense_Chameleon_Variation

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #9

    Estragon

    5 Bg5 is rare because it's premature - Black should just continue with 5 ...dxc4.  If White wants to play Bg5, he should wait until Black plays ...e6, so 5 a4 or 5 Qb3 first, and if Black replies to either with 5 ...e6 then White is on sounder ground with Bg5 because of the pin.

    5 ...Ne4 isn't good, and 6 Bf4 or even 6 cxd5 is preferable to 6 Nxe4, which only helps Black solve his opening problems.

    I'm not familiar with Houdini, but engine evaluations are given in units of pawns, +1.00 being a solid pawn ahead.  +0.15 is roughly 1/6 of a pawn, or half a tempo - about what White starts the game with, so that's not a favorable result for a variation.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #11

    TicklyTim

    I would suggest that Houdini's assessment may alter after a few moves are made (and black catches up in development).

    Even though black has the pawn, the computer sees White's development as compensation. I think White's lead in development will be temporary and that there isn't much to be gained from it in the current position - so I think the pawn will start to tell in the next 10-20 moves.

    Would be interest in what line Houdini gives. Have you played the moves down the line so that Houdini can re-assess after each move (rather than assess at the end of one long variation)?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #13

    vowles_23

    Reb wrote:
    DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:
    Reb wrote:
    DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

    don't play the slav,it's a bad opening(unless you wish to transpose to the semi-slav).the a6 slav is total rubbish.


    And you would know this how exactly ?


     i'm an openings expert and i have extensively analysed the slav.


    I bet.... 


    Reb vs DafddTheIgnorant with a6 Slav!

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #14

    vowles_23

    DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:
     
    vowles_23 wrote:
    Reb wrote:
    DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:
    Reb wrote:
    DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

    don't play the slav,it's a bad opening(unless you wish to transpose to the semi-slav).the a6 slav is total rubbish.


    And you would know this how exactly ?


     i'm an openings expert and i have extensively analysed the slav.


    I bet....


    Reb vs DafddTheIgnorant with a6 Slav!


     i was just about to write that ,though there has to be something at stake,otherwise it's no fun.


    Ultimate shame sounds good to me.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #15

    vowles_23

    DafyddTheIgnorant wrote:

    reb's gone hiding ..


    Either that or to work...


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