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New "Grand Prix Attack" group


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    polleke

    Just to let you know that I started a group for players who like the Grand Prix Attack against the sicilian. If you like to play 2.Nc3 and 3.f4 or 3.Bb5 you're welcome to join and share your games and advice! Even when you're more of a closed Sicilian player, most welcome, since play and ideas can be similar in some of the variations.

    http://www.chess.com/groups/home/sicilian-grand-prix-attack

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    oinquarki

    What about if I play the McDonnell attack? 1. e4 c5 2. f4! It's pretty much the same as the Grand Prix attack but with different move order. It's my main move against the Sicilian.Smile

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    polleke

    You're more than welcome!!! I will change the articles of association Laughing.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    CBA

    How about someone who's interested in learning either?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    Archerknight

    What about someone who plays against the grand prix often?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    polleke

    We'll be playing the white pieces in vote chess etc, but feel free to join.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    opticnerve

    Can I join the group pretty please???!!! I love the Sicilian Grand Prix Attack and I almost virtually use it against the sicilian. 

    Right now, I'm defending the Philidor and I am thinking of adding Sicilian defence as part of repertoire for Black.

    Becasuse the GPA, I'm having second thoughts in defending the sicilian because frankly, I'm afraid of my own line! LOL

    here's my game. 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    polleke

    Nice game! Both the typical queenside play against the doubled pawns and a kingside attack in one.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    Atos

    oinquarki wrote:

    What about if I play the McDonnell attack? 1. e4 c5 2. f4! It's pretty much the same as the Grand Prix attack but with different move order. It's my main move against the Sicilian.


    The McDonnell Attack is used against the French.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    oinquarki

    Really? I checked the book openings here on chess.com and it has only two things called the McDonnell Attack: this, and some kings gambit variation that I've never heard of.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    Atos

    oinquarki wrote:

    Really? I checked the book openings here on chess.com and it has only two things called the McDonnell Attack: this, and some kings gambit variation that I've never heard of.


    Actually it's called Labourdonnais - McDonnell Attack.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    Absurd

    oinquarki wrote:

    What about if I play the McDonnell attack? 1. e4 c5 2. f4! It's pretty much the same as the Grand Prix attack but with different move order. It's my main move against the Sicilian.


    It's not the same as the Grand Prix with a different move order and neither is it particularly !-worthy.

     

    2. f4 allows Black to play the Tal Gambit with 1. e4 c5 2. f4 d5!? which A) results in a different pawn structure and different game than starting the Grand Prix out of a Closed Sicilian move order that prevents Black from playing an early d5 and B) scores better for Black than White in high-level play (which is also the case with the regular Grand Prix, but for different reasons).

     

    You can play that move order - as it's not unsound, but it's also un-necessarily risky if you are planning to play the Grand Prix anyway. Why give your opponent an extra way out of your preparation?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    DrizztD

    opticnerve wrote:

    Can I join the group pretty please???!!! I love the Sicilian Grand Prix Attack and I almost virtually use it against the sicilian. 

    Right now, I'm defending the Philidor and I am thinking of adding Sicilian defence as part of repertoire for Black.

    Becasuse the GPA, I'm having second thoughts in defending the sicilian because frankly, I'm afraid of my own line! LOL

    here's my game. 

     


    I wouldn't let it scare you. If the only thing stopping you from playing the sicilian is the GPA, there's no reason not to play it.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    oinquarki

    Absurd wrote:
    oinquarki wrote:

    What about if I play the McDonnell attack? 1. e4 c5 2. f4! It's pretty much the same as the Grand Prix attack but with different move order. It's my main move against the Sicilian.


    It's not the same as the Grand Prix with a different move order and neither is it particularly !-worthy.

     

    2. f4 allows Black to play the Tal Gambit with 1. e4 c5 2. f4 d5!? which A) results in a different pawn structure and different game than starting the Grand Prix out of a Closed Sicilian move order that prevents Black from playing an early d5 and B) scores better for Black than White in high-level play (which is also the case with the regular Grand Prix, but for different reasons).

     

    You can play that move order - as it's not unsound, but it's also un-necessarily risky if you are planning to play the Grand Prix anyway. Why give your opponent an extra way out of your preparation?


    I was unaware of that. I didn't really study it.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    CBA

    These all sound like reason I should join - except that I can't say I like the GPA (which seems to be the entrance qualification) because I don't even know it!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #16

    polleke

    Maybe this video will get you an idea (or even better... interested).  If you don't like the opening, you will probably get a kick out of the way it is presented!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCiqu3VyE3k

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17

    Polis113

    opticnerve wrote:

    Can I join the group pretty please???!!! I love the Sicilian Grand Prix Attack and I almost virtually use it against the sicilian. 

    Right now, I'm defending the Philidor and I am thinking of adding Sicilian defence as part of repertoire for Black.

    Becasuse the GPA, I'm having second thoughts in defending the sicilian because frankly, I'm afraid of my own line! LOL

    here's my game. 

     


    13. c4 is better(fixing whole queen side), this idea is always used when black allowed doubled pawns

     

    Like to play Grand Prix, probably opening with best results for me.

  • 6 weeks ago · Quote · #18

    ChessKidIsCrazy

    I think the Sicilian is very hard to beat. I tried playing the grand prix attack against someone but it didn't seem to work. you can see the game I played at my blog on chess.com which is called attacking the Sicilian. I need plenty of help attacking that sicilian because I keep losing against it. Is there any queen pawn openings that are good for stopping the sicilian, because I really hate that opening.

  • 6 weeks ago · Quote · #19

    TwoMove

    Are you certain that it is the sicilian that is so dangerous, and not your opponents are more experienced and higher rated than you? Have a friend who plays QPA regularly, rated FIDE 1600, who regularly causes problems for opponents rated 100-200 points higher. The sicilian is autually a hard opening to play, if don't do a fair amount of work on lines want to play.


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