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Peculiar Opening


  • 10 months ago · Quote · #21

    Irontiger

    batgirl wrote:

    Thanks qqrnprn.  I had been convinced that 5...d5 6.exd5 Bd6  was a complete refutation, now I'm not so sure.  It's certainly Black's best line so all analysis should  probably start from this position:

    1-I believe there is still a case to make for 5...Bd6 (without sacrificing the d pawn).

    2-White is already facing serious problems, the two main being ...Bg5 and ...f3 (attacking c4). And even if both sides manage to castle without immediate damage, Black has a long-lasting attack on the kingside, not White.

    For instance, 7.0-0 (?) Bg5 ? is a mistake because of Be2 and Black will lose castling rights due to a check, but something like this does not look thrilling for White :



  • 10 months ago · Quote · #22

    qqrnprn

    Irontiger, after 5...Bd6 what will answer black to 6.Nc3( defending e4 pawn) with intention 7.d4 ?

     



  • 10 months ago · Quote · #23

    Irontiger

    qqrnprn wrote:

    Irontiger, after 5...Bd6 what will answer black to 6.Nc3( defending e4 pawn) with intention 7.d4 ?

     

     



    Oops. Nothing, indeed (maybe it's playable, but not close to the other variant).

    I mixed up the lines with 5...Nxe4 6.0-0 Nxf2 7.Rxf2 Bd6 (which has killed a central pawn).

    Sorry...

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #24

    melvinbluestone

       This is really getting ridiculous! It's bad enough that after all these centuries, the King's Gambit, the most suspicious opening in all of chessdom, has never been satisfactorily refuted (or 'busted' as Bobby put it). Now, on top of that, this absurd knight move may not only be sound..... it might be good!? Ay caramba!

       Maybe black can interpose 6...Bg4 before Bd6. It deflects the queen from the d-file, and there's some tactics on the e-file: 

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #25

    qqrnprn

    White stay good after 9.0-0 ( instead of 9.Nc3 ) and black can't castle ( at least - not immediately )



  • 10 months ago · Quote · #26

    batgirl

    melvinbluestone wrote:

       This is really getting ridiculous! It's bad enough that after all these centuries, the King's Gambit, the most suspicious opening in all of chessdom, has never been satisfactorily refuted (or 'busted' as Bobby put it). Now, on top of that, this absurd knight move may not only be sound..... it might be good!? Ay caramba!

    I'm not sure the KG in itself is suspect, but this opening, as it defies some many chess axioms, certainly is.  However, like some other odd openings, proving it isn't as easy as it first seems.  There have been more good ideas here than I expected and I'm grateful for them all. 

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #27

    melvinbluestone

    @batgirl:

       I love your blog and I love your articles and the games you post. But you may be taking my comments too seriously. Calling the KG 'suspicious' is my attempt at humor. Apparently, a very inaffective attempt! Wink

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #28

    melvinbluestone

    @qqrnprn:  9.O-O looks pretty good, but it's not all beer and skittles for white after 12.d4. I'm not so sure the queen can just charge off to black's queenside and try to wreak havoc without significant consequences......

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #29

    batgirl

    I wasn't being so serious either but just wanted to emphasize the difference between the KG main lines and KG offshoots.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #30

    batgirl

    Here is my article on the Eisenberg Gambit.  Thanks everyone.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #31

    qqrnprn

    melvinbluestone wrote:

    @qqrnprn:  9.O-O looks pretty good, but it's not all beer and skittles for white after 12.d4. I'm not so sure the queen can just charge off to black's queenside and try to wreak havoc without significant consequences......

    Melvinbluestone, the things are going nice in your example for black , but 13.Re1 isn't the best white's move. I suggest 13.Bxf4 .



  • 10 months ago · Quote · #32

    melvinbluestone

    @qqrnprn:

       I'm not giving up the ghost just yet. 13.Bf4 may be better than Re1, but simply 13...Bf6 seems to hold everything for black:

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #33

    qqrnprn

    Yes, i think, it is playable for white and black too. White can try also 14.g3


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