Another fun Turtles Defense Game :

wow were to start. well its a shame black wins with this play.it is clearly bad from the start.moving the same piece to many times,leaving king in the center,giving pieces away for strange reasons, all signs of a amature player. i will say your game was not to bad till you played 11...Nxg2 at that point your lost but its clear your odd play confused the weak white player. then with 14...Bxh3 you are just flat out lost. all white has to do is wait for you to loser more men which in time you would have.the only mistake white made"granted it lost the game" was 21.Nxa8 had he played the killer 21.Bf3 you would be lost. after 21...Qf5 22.Nxa8 if you don't agree i can finish the game after that move 21.Bf3

Dang shame we got people like Scott to respond.

If my memory is correct it was a 3 or 4 minute blitz game. White is rated at least 50 points above me in this type of game. My objective was simply to slow down my opponent and make him think. Since time was a factor he wasn't nit picking my moves and calling me out. He was playing the game as he did.

For all he knew could've been a 1 minute "LIVE" game.

I agree Fezzik you can't. In a blitz game it's a race against time ... NOT POINTS

Which is why I enjoy playing my "Turtles Defense". It creates a distraction for unaware opponents who have never seen it and slows their game down. Hence the Turtle

Sorry, guy... I have to +1 scott here. Terrible play by both sides, even if it were a bullet game.

well i will say a game played that fast is diff. i play some openings i know are not good because of the shock factor and making mistakes in games that fast is just a given

 Wow, after seeing that game I'm speechless (still can type though ). This game even in bullet chess standarts was very, very bad on both sides, and this Turtle Defense? Drop this opening ChessMobb because there's no shocking value (because you don't engage opponents pieces, just letting him develop effortlessly) and you are left without any compensation whatsoever.

19.Nxh4 by white and you would have been completely crushed.

Basically, you were down material (points) but your position also sucked against halfway decent defense.

wow ... oK IF i WERE Expert and were playing experts you bring a valid point. However I am 1700 at best. Everybody who says we are amatures ... Duh! Look at my rating. However I don't let that stop me from playing players in my rating bracket. Stop Hating

I will master "Turtles Defense" and will prove it's worth!

 Just ignore my hating remarks and read the rest : Drop this opening ChessMobb because there's no shocking value (because you don't engage opponents pieces, just letting him develop effortlessly) and you are left without any compensation whatsoever.

I'm sorry for being hateful.

You would do better trying to master Italian, Ruy Lopez or any other proven opening but it's up to you.

I will only say this once, I don't think you fully appreciate how passive "turtle's defense" is and what a big advantage it grants white.  You won't be able to improve much at chess if you keep trying to play this way.

1...a6 is weak, but not completely worthless.  2...e6 is fine.  3...Nc6 doesn't fit well with your first two moves, but isn't terrible.  4...Na7? is an absolutely awful move.  5...Ne7 is fine although I would have moved out the dark-squared bishop first.  6...Ng6?! is highly questionable, you are falling so far behind in development, white has a powerful center, and your a7 knight is badly misplaced.   7...h5? shows that you don't understand the necessary preconditions for a successful kingside attack.  You don't have a space advantage on the kingside, you are behind in development, your opponent controls the center and can open it, and your king is still stuck in the center.  All of these signs point against launching a kingside attack.

I'll stop there, but that is my positional assessment of your first seven moves.  Your entire premise that you were sacrificing pieces to "gain more leverage" is absurd.  I can clearly see that, and I'm nowhere close to expert strength!

ROFL. So many haters on this site...

I didn't create those ... Tho yes I know they work. I am stubborn on this move only because I created it and in my opinion like the world has evolved so will chess tactics. I'm trying something NEW ... Turtles Defense is simply A6 everything else comes after.

 I just read your profile (great avatar BTW) where you say that you are novice/itermediate trying to improve your game. If you really wanna improve - don't waste your time on 1. ...a6. Study proven openings, analyze master's games, learn basic rules of endgame and play as often as you can online chess or OTB (bullet and blitz are good for funbut you won't improve your chess skills much).

I play to win but mostly I play to have fun. I play mainly Blitz games ... Snail Mail Games are too slow and I lose train of thought by the time it's my turn to act.Players are always "on Vacation"

I do however play snail mail games but it's only every blue moon. If I let myself travel the world in other peoples footsteps I fear I wouldn't discover anything new. Im all about searching the unknown.

1. ... a6 isn't unknown check this links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._George_Defence,

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1433477,

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessopening?eco=B00,

http://brooklyn64.com/2010/play-the-st-george/

I'm sure you could find many more if you google it.

You would be much better off trying to become stronger at chess, and gain a better understanding of the game.  You don't possess the ability to discover anything useful about chess that countless others before you haven't already noticed (this goes for me too, so don't feel bad).  Trying to avoid other people's footsteps at all costs is a HORRIBLE philosophy, and will ruin your chances of improving.  You can still 'discover' things for yourself though, i.e. learn and understand things you didn't previously know (even if most strong players already learned it) and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

So many inexperienced players on here have the same mentality as you (trying to force a new, bad opening to work) and they fail for two reasons.  The most important reason is that they aren't strong at chess, so their efforts constantly produce lines that are only good against inferior play by the opponent.  The other reason is that, most of the time, the fundamental moves they are trying to force (in your case plopping a knight on a7 in the first four moves) are terribly weak moves that have no useful place in a serious chess game.

St Georges Defense is only with e4 opening i believe. Turtles Defense is with All