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polish opening


  • 23 months ago · Quote · #1

    Walter0508

    just started to play this opening ,is it good or not so good 

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #2

    DeathRoe

    I've no idea :-)

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #3

    Walter0508

    yeah at the minute me niether guess time and games won will tell Laughing

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #4

    Scottrf

    Played against it as black recently with some comments.

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=59368118

    And an older game that was quite tactical but with a lot of errors.

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=53961686

    It's certainly not terrible, I don't think it makes the most of your opening advantage, not that you should worry too much about that. You can get some pressure against the queenside and it's probably not one your opponents will know what to play (although that seems to just be control the centre and develop normally).

    See how you get on.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #5

    Nadir_Tuhaf

    In my opinion, the opening is very good, but this is just my opinion.  I believe this because it is unusual and will throw opponents off very early in the game.  It is a very dynamic opening and is especially good for Blitz games.  Others will argue that White will not be able to retain the first move advantage in the ensuing endgame, I don't believe this makes much of a difference below master level.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #6

    Nadir_Tuhaf

    Scottrf, in both of your posted games, your opponent's play in the opening was not correct.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #7

    sirness

    I played it for years OTB and enjoyed it, I stopped it after coming up against:

    There can be different move orders for white but I found Black had too much pressure on the e-file, better development, good chances of attacking e3, quite often with a temporary sac.

    I would suggest trying a more main line opening as you will eventually do that anyway.

    Hope this helps.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #8

    Scottrf

    Yeah true, they're probably of limited value, but was just trying to add something to the discussion...

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #9

    Nadir_Tuhaf

    @sirness

    I guess it is a matter of preference.  You could try the unusual 4. c3!?, even though it probably isn't quite as good as 4. c4.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #10

    Nadir_Tuhaf

    Bump, because I like this opening.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #11

    Walter0508

    thanks guys you 've given me lots to think about.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #12

    plutonia

    Yes, it's not something you can exactly refute OTB but if you learn how to play against it you equalize immediately.

     

    I saw two different systems: one you exchange your e pawn for his b pawn, like in the game above, to grab a lead in development.

    Another is you put a stronghold on e5, helped with a counter-fianchetto, and white has no way to free the diagonal for his bishop.

     

    All those kind of "trick openings" work only against who is not prepared for them. Soon or later you'll have to start studying a REAL opening ;)

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #13

    Walter0508

    ok any suggestions what opening that should be plutonia any help would be much appreciated.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #14

    plutonia

    Start by playing e4. Answer with e5 if you're black.

     

    I believe you should first learn the "principled" openings, such as the Italian game (just an example), to build up a basic understanding of development, centre control, castle etc.

     

    Then there's a ton of solid openings that violate those principles. I love the Najdorf that is the antithesis of opening principles. But if you don't get the basis first you'll never be aware of what your drawbacks are when you play a counterintuitive thing.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #15

    Walter0508

    ok thank you plutonia

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #16

    Walter0508

    any one else have a opening they favour

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #17

    Fear_ItseIf

    Its sound, it doesnt do anything wrong. Its problem is it doesnt actually do anything right, most of the moves neither fail nor impress.

    Id rather be black though, whites play is just awkward. 

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #18

    Nadir_Tuhaf

    @Fear_Itself

    Perhaps awkward isn't the right word, unsual/unorthodox maybe?

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #19

    Walter0508

    Walter0508  

    any one else have a opening they favour, i would appreciate all suggestions and help given.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #20

    rooperi

    A few years ago, I played league (d division, yay!) and some tournaments.

    I scored around around 50% in my OTB games, always doig slightly better with black than with white.

    One year, I played the Polish exclusively as white. My White score that year was 14w-1d-1l.

    Is it the best opening in the world? No.

    Is it awkward for 1400-1800 opponents to handle even at standard time control?  I think so.

    [edit] I should point out that many of my wins were miniatures, some relatively strong (compared to me) made bad opening errors.

    Common ones were:

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    and:




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