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pseudo trompowsky?


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    fionn5

    Anyone know of any books which cover this?

    I don't think there is much coverage in the main books i spot at amazon:

        Wells book (Winning with the Trompowsky) doesn't have any

        Gallagher book (The trompowsky) has 2 pages

        Davies book (The trompowsky, 2nd) not sure - but my guess is not.?.

    Thanks.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    phyxius

    No none

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    pwnsrppl2

    James Plaskett's "The Queen's Bishop Attack Revealed."  I'm reading it now.  Can't say it's much more than a survey of the opening so far.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    SeitelJN

    There isn't much on it at all, really. I've played it a lot as white offline and love it and have got nothing but good results from it. First learned about it from Andrew Martin's 21st Century Secret Weapons VHS #1. Goes in to loads of detail about it. He's probably one of the few commentators on it really, and this was back in the mid 1990s. British Master, Julian Hodgson champions the opening though. Try looking up some of his 1. d4 d5 2. Bg5!? ... ,games.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    o-blade-o

    no

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #6

    rich

    I play the trompowsky a lot, but I've never seen it called pseudo trompowsky. Where did you get that from?

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #7

    gwnn

    rich:

    d4-d5; Bg5

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #8

    BopGun

    Plaskett's book on the pseudo-Tromp is the only one I know of...and it's horrible.  Weak on all of: analysis, explanation, and relevant reasonably up to date theory.  It is, however, good if all you're after is a survey of interesting games played in the opening.

    Far and away the best resource on this is chesspublishing.com.  Prie's section on d-pawn specials has tons of good and theoretically relevant 1.d4 d5 2 Bg5 stuff.  And frankly, his analysis of 2...f6 ought to be enough to sour anyone on the opening once and for all.

     

    (ETA: it's probably worth noting that even though the pseudo is more or less a trainwreck to the theoretically booked-up, it HAS been good enough for Kramnik and Nakamura to trot out against high-level comp in the last couple years.  So that ought to say something.)

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #9

    Estragon

    The late great SM Charles Powell was adamant about this, having invested a good bit of time from the White side of the Tromp and "pseudo-Tromp."  He inisted Black's best defense to the regular Tromp was 2 ...d5.

    "Black must already be almost equal for practical purposes - should he fear 3 Bxf6, when he has the Bishop pair, is equal in development, and has been forced to prevent any later Ne5 or Ng5?"

    So in the "pseudo-Tromp" Black should simply play 2 ...Nf6.  The "pseudo-Tromp" becomes more reasonable for White against other moves, according to Powell, so there is no reason to avoid the equalizing line.

    I played both lines as White for nearly ten years, and nothing in my experience contradicted his judgment.

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #10

    NimzoRoy

    I have an entire book (pamphlet really) on the Trompowsky (we don't need no stinking Pseudo-Trompowskies here!)

    It's called The Anti-Indian by Alan Savage ©1984 and probably long out of print, but I suppose you could look for it at amazon and various chess sites. Most likely you'd do just as well or probably way better to just start collecting as many games as you can find online with it and put them together in your own database (DB) using ChessBase 9 Lite (free). If you can afford to buy ChessBase 9 or 10 (the latest & greatest & most expensive version is CB 11) you'll find thousands if not tens of thousands of games in the DB I have CB 9 and it's DB is about 3.5 million games

    So just out of curiosity what the *@&#^$%?!! is the Pseudo-Trompowsky? Not all of us happen to know every chess opening by name and/or ECO code. You need to give the moves along with the  name of uncommon openings; is Estragon's answer correct for whatever it is you're looking for?

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #11

    BopGun

    The line is given a number of times up above.  But to recap...

    Trompowsky: 1.d4 Nf6 2.Bg5

    Pseudo-Trompowsky ("Levitsky attack"): 1.d4 d5 2.Bg5

    See also: games of Julian Hodgson.


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