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QGA line bad for black, but how to win?


  • 23 months ago · Quote · #21

    melvinbluestone

    @ajian: Of course, black is not obliged to play 8...Nb6 (in the sideline 7...e6 8.axb5). A good alternative is 8...Bb4. See Komarov Dimitri vs Fominyh Alexander  . Probably safer for white in that line is 9.Bd2, instead of 9.Qc2, but after 9...Nb6 10.Be2 Bb7 followed by castling, I think black is OK.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #22

    Dutchday

    Ajian, that is a totally different line and not your initial question. Understand my confusion.

    Black doesn't have to play 9...e6, there are other moves like 9...Bd5.

    Looking at the 9...e6 line for a moment, there might be 11...Be4 12.Rb2 c6, with a solid wall. My engine also likes 12...Qd5 but I don't know.

    Your line with g6-h6-Kg8 looks a little awkward for black. Costs time.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #23

    ajian

    Dutchday wrote:

    Ajian, that is a totally different line and not your initial question. Understand my confusion.

    Black doesn't have to play 9...e6, there are other moves like 9...Bd5.

    Looking at the 9...e6 line for a moment, there might be 11...Be4 12.Rb2 c6, with a solid wall. My engine also likes 12...Qd5 but I don't know.

    Your line with g6-h6-Kg8 looks a little awkward for black. Costs time.

    I know, but then the kingside would be blasted open with f4-f5. By the way, this is definetely not a refuatation of the QGA. But I don't think that 4.Nc3 denies white an opening advantage

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #24

    Dutchday

    Well, as long as any questions you had were answered then. 

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #25

    ajian

    Dutchday wrote:

    Ajian, that is a totally different line and not your initial question. Understand my confusion.

    Black doesn't have to play 9...e6, there are other moves like 9...Bd5.

    Looking at the 9...e6 line for a moment, there might be 11...Be4 12.Rb2 c6, with a solid wall. My engine also likes 12...Qd5 but I don't know.

    Your line with g6-h6-Kg8 looks a little awkward for black. Costs time.

     

    by the way if black plays Bd5 then Bf3 might give the white attack more force with e6 breaks coming in. Here's a game I played off chess.com



  • 23 months ago · Quote · #27

    ajian

    what about an attempt to take over d6 and the f5 break? by the way, if this 4.Nc3 line is bad, then can you show me how to get compensation for the IQP in this line?

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #29

    ajian

    pfren wrote:
    ajian wrote:

    what about an attempt to take over d6 and the f5 break? by the way, if this 4.Nc3 line is bad, then can you show me how to get compensation for the IQP in this line?

    I don't really get you.

    In the middlegame, the IQP is a strength, not a weakness. Just learn how to handle IQP positions both sides of the board- this is essential knowledge for every chessplayer, much more useful than learning openings.

    In your line, 10...b6? is a lemon. Black is in horrible shape after the simple 11.d5 (probably losing by force already).

    I know, but if I can't use my advantage, I have a horrible endgame.


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