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8th October 2007, 02:20pm
#1
by beechwoods
Blaina Wales
Member Since: Jul 2007
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dose anybody know if there has been any 2 chess games exactlly the same from start 2 finish? 

8th October 2007, 02:22pm
#2
by batgirl
NC United States
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many of them.
8th October 2007, 02:25pm
#3
by beechwoods
Blaina Wales
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 79
then if there were thay must have been done on purpose, bit silly, and did thay end in draw's?
8th October 2007, 04:01pm
#4
by batgirl
NC United States
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Just use reasoning. The shorter the game the more likely it would be that it has a mirror. You know "fool's mate," I'm sure. That's a chess game. How many times do you think it's been played? Just once? What about Scholar's Mate? etc. etc.

It's very reasonably to think that many miniatures has been duplicated many times... or rather, to me, it would be unreasonable to believe otherwise.


8th October 2007, 04:26pm
#5
by oginschile
Salt Lake City, UT United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
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This is why professional chess players stay so on top of openings and new games played, so that last week's novelty doesn't catch them unawares too. All too often the player more up to date with his knowledge wins in familiar lines, because a novelty has been played somewhere in the world and an existing understanding of a position is priceless in competitive chess.. especially when time limits come into play.

Copycats usually happen when one person knows the line and the other person doesn't.


9th October 2007, 07:58am
#6
by beechwoods
Blaina Wales
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 79
has it ever been known 2 go down 2, king 2 king left on the board, i cannot ever see that happening.
10th October 2007, 07:16am
#7
by western_burn
Brampton, Ontario Canada
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You would be describing a draw due to insufficient material. It does happen but often the draw will be decided upon before such a position is reached as it is forseeable.


12th October 2007, 08:42pm
#8
by oginschile
Salt Lake City, UT United States
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Game 13 of the Leko Kramnik match in 2004 is a famous game where it went down to K v K. Drawn obviously. A very exciting game.


13th October 2007, 08:31am
#9
by beechwoods
Blaina Wales
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Member Points: 79
thank's 4 info orginschile
13th October 2007, 10:17am
#10
by itaibn
Toronto, Ontario Canada
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I'm sure the following game was played more than once:


13th October 2007, 10:27am
#11
by batgirl
NC United States
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I've been on the black side of that very game 4 times this week alone!
13th October 2007, 10:45am
#12
by mxdplay4
mids UK England
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there is an example of a very complicated position that arose in 2 seperate GM games with colours reversed . but not same moves. One missed a complicated win, the other found it. No knowledge of the other game. I'll find it and post it under 'same position' unless anyone else knows it
13th October 2007, 11:09am
#13
by beechwoods
Blaina Wales
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Member Points: 79
thank u mxdplay4
15th October 2007, 05:44am
#14
by mxdplay4
mids UK England
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 697
Here is the game...
Tchigorin found the win against Rubinstein (1906) with colours reversed Smyslov gave a  perpetual with Nf2+
10th November 2007, 02:53am
#15
by do2bie
Klaipeda Lithuania
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 367

how people say !''if you step on shit onece ,you don't whon't to step in twice .''

any way we human's sow doesnt how we say we make it twice and more ,till we

learn . “Custom, then, is the great guide of human life” Peace to every one . 

 


10th November 2007, 03:12am
#16
by 1red5a
Cainta Rizal, Philippines
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 225

 


 nice qoute, involving the word shit

 

Laughing


 


 

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