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Scandinavian Defense 2...Qxd5; 3...Qa5: why not 4 Nf3?


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #42

    roaringking87

    I enjoy playing the Scandinavian myself but it is really undeniable that correct play by white leads to a devolepment advantage and strong pressure. I find this opening to be very passive for black. On the contrary the Scandinavian Gambit can lead to very interesting positions.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #43

    ponz111

    I do not want a game as I am mentally disabled with some brain damage in the area of my brian which has to do with spatial which affects my chess.

     

    But, for fun, I will be glad to play an unrated game where I have

    Black. 

     

    By the way after  1. e4  d5  2. e5?? I am sure best is 2. ... c5.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #44

    roaringking87

    alexlaw wrote:
    roaringking87 wrote:

    I enjoy playing the Scandinavian myself but it is really undeniable that correct play by white leads to a devolepment advantage and strong pressure. I find this opening to be very passive for black. On the contrary the Scandinavian Gambit can lead to very interesting positions.

    that opening is probably not advised as your main weapon though :P
    play the improved scandinavian! the caro kann. 

    It was years ago when I tried to develop a repertoire for black against 1.e4 avoiding heavy theoretical lines. The more you play chess and learn new things, the more your likes and dislike change in openings.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #45

    ponz111

    birdmove would you give me the opening up to his d5? then i can probably tell you where you went wrong.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #46

    Elubas

    So it seems you were in fact being presumptuous.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #47

    ponz111

    Maybe, he was a little presumptuous but it shows character to admit a mistake.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #48

    Elubas

    Play them out as long as possible, maybe even 20 moves. It can often change its mind. Houdini also thinks that the main line of 1 e4 e6 2 d4 d5 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Bg5 Bb4 5 e5 h6 6 Bd2 Bxc3 7 bxc3 Ne4 8 Qg4 is better for black.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #49

    ponz111

    Yes. plus .37 means a small advantage for White.

    what is given for other openings?  .37 seems above average starting opening score for an opening for

    White.

    which means computer does not think scandinavian as good as other openings for

    black?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #50

    browni3141

    alexlaw wrote:

    because all engines gave a +0.37 to the scandinavian (well i checked this BEFORE i played the game. Usually black doesn't make the correct move order and I get many games with me having 3 extra pieces developed.

    normal pirc/sicilian/caro-kann etc gives somewhere between a +0.1 to a +0.25, which is almost equal. a +0.37 means a small advantage for white, right?

    Who cares? Since when do we let engines decide our openings for us? It's supposed to be the other way around right!?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #52

    roaringking87

    Development represents only one key in the judgement of a particular position. Even if engines are weak in openings (that's why they use opening books: to avoid mistakes, to get favorable positions out of the opening and also to disguise their lack of positional and strategic knowledge) there must be a reason if Larry Kaufman latest book on the opening repertoire is created and checked using the strongest engines like probably all GM repertoires today.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #53

    FirebrandX

    Powerlevel_9001 wrote:

    I like how 21 posts in this thread have been deleted (cheaters banned)

    I guess we should always quote whoever we reply to, even if redundant. That way, a record is still kept.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #54

    ponz111

    After 1. e4  d5  2. exd5 Qxd5  3. Nf3 then Bg4 is a "must" as otherwise

    White is able to set up a d4 and c4 control of the center on

    Black and slowly squeeze Black into oblivian.

    There is plenty of theory after 3. ... Bg4! and the line is fully playable

    In general Black plays  3.. ... Bg4   4. ...Nc3  5. ...0-0-0.   Of course if White plays Nc3 after the 4. ...Bg4 move then Black must move his Queen.

    Actually the 3. Bg4! line is fun to play for Black

    as for 4. ...Bg4 [after White plays Nc3 and Black moves his Queen and then Nf3 by White] that is a different ball of wax.  It is different as White can no longer opt for the d4 and c4 squeeze line. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • 22 months ago · Quote · #55

    ponz111

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #56

    ponz111


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