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10th September 2008, 03:38pm
#1
by Eagle_one
Knoxville United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 40

Does anyone have an excellent counter to the Sicilian? I have at least two games that look almost exactly alike both with the other winning.

10th September 2008, 03:49pm
#2
by sstteevveenn
Wales United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1634

1.e4 c5 2.c3 is pleasant.  Fits quite nicely with the advance variation of the french defense, and may transpose. 

10th September 2008, 03:50pm
#3
by eddiewsox
Chicago United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 819

Why not use Game Explorer under Master Games?

10th September 2008, 03:53pm
#4
by Eagle_one
Knoxville United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 40

I tried to do that but I can only make three moves until I have to stop because I'm not a member. And when I do 1.e5,c6 instead of 2.c3 I do 2.Nc3.

10th September 2008, 04:04pm
#5
by sstteevveenn
Wales United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1634

I dont understand e5 c6, doesnt make any sense.  Perhaps you mean the closed sicilian, 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3, which is a fine move, but perhaps leads to positions which aren't intuitive. 

10th September 2008, 07:36pm
#6
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1856

You could try the morra gambit...it's often a good choice for beginners.

The grand prix attack works too.

10th September 2008, 09:01pm
#7
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 3790

For someone who's played the Grand Prix: What is the basic plan for white after e4 c5 f4

11th September 2008, 05:30am
#8
by CarlMI
White Post, VA United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 724

If you really hate the Sicilian play 1. d4.  Not knowing your strength it makes it hard to gauge but I would recommend the Morra 1. e4 c5 2. d4....   Black can accept or decline but he can't really sidestep so that limits the areas you need to study.  If will teach you the value of initiative and tactics.  It is perfectly sound at anything below expert level and several experts like it.

14th September 2008, 12:01pm
#9
by chuckg99
Tampa, FL United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 114

ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

For someone who's played the Grand Prix: What is the basic plan for white after e4 c5 f4


 Actually, the more normal way of getting into the Grand Prix is via 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 and 3. f4.  Against 2. f4, black has the reasonable reply 2...d5 3. ed Nf6 and black has pretty much equalized already.

So, with the correct move order in mind (1. e4, 2. Nc3 and 3. f4) the most strategically straightforward idea for white is to trade of his f1 bishop with Bb5, play d3 and castle king side.  He will then proceed to prosecute his kingside attack with moves like Qe1 and Qg3 (or h4), followed up with f5 or e5. 

The main thing for white to avoid is resist playing a4 in response to black ...a6/...b5 ideas, so as to not open any q-side files for black to operate on.  If black chooses to chase the white knight on c3 with ...a6/...b5/...b4 plans, knight will generally go to e2 and g3, where it will participate in the kingside attack.

Although I've just started playing it, I'm generally pleased with the result as a universal system against all Sicilians.  I like it much better than the Smith-Morra and 2. c3 Sicilians, both of which allow black to play ...Nf6 (1. e4 c5 2. d4 cd 3. c3 Nf6 and 1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6) which can be difficult for white to make headway against.  Not to mention both contain a myriad of theory that must be absorbed to forge them into suitable weapons.

Anyway, that's my .02

14th September 2008, 12:09pm
#10
by brandonQDSH
Honolulu, HI United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 996

Grand Prix Attack is a lot of fun. e4 and f4 control a lot of space. It's almost as good as e4 and d4 but it leaves you more vulnerable. With Black playing c5 he is already committed to castling short and so with e4 and f4 controlling the direct space in front of the King and the Queen transfer to the h-file, the Grand Prix Attack is very formidable, but Black has some good counters.

If you want an all out brawl against the Sicilian, you can try supporting e4 with f3, and castling long. With this asymmetrical position there are sure to be fireworks indeed!

18th September 2008, 04:57pm
#11
by Eagle_one
Knoxville United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 40

Thanks for all your advice. Next time I will just play1.d4.

19th September 2008, 02:04am
#12
by cheesehat
Sydney Australia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 196

NEVER PLAY D4! IT LOOKS UGLY]

 

 

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Grand Prix attack in action: Made up game between me and me

 

19th September 2008, 05:05am
#13
by xMenace
Rothesay, NB Canada
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 846

Very often I'll create an Anti-Najdorf or Dragon attack setup, Be3, Qd2, and f3 followed by g4 and h4, regardless of what Black does. One has to be prepared for a few things like the f-kniggit chasing your dark B and ... e5. But generally it gets my opponent out of any book lines where we can fight it out.

Here's a recent game.

19th September 2008, 07:08am
#14
by CarlMI
White Post, VA United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 724

Xmenace,

Be3, Qd2, f3, g4, etc. is called the English attack.  Broke out in the 90's, popular as a new attack method which can be used against a couple of black systems.  Why your opponent played 5... a6 then 6...g6 I do not get.  One or the other would be fine, both is playing with fire, IMHO.

19th September 2008, 08:07am
#15
by oneCrash
United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 6

The Yugoslav is a better attack vs the Dragon.  Check the numbers out, not to mention Tal and Fischer, to name a few, used it as their anti-Dragon weapon.

 

As white, you can't fear any defense or opening.  If you don't mind black equalizing quickly, play the Closed, but it's very hard for White to keep it's advantage.  In the Open, White has a real ability to take the fight to Black.

23rd September 2008, 05:45pm
#16
by Elubas
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2517

I don't understand why, though. Black has a central majority so why doesn't he ever push his central pawns a little more?

23rd September 2008, 05:50pm
#17
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 945

the morra smith gambit is great

24th September 2008, 04:00am
#18
by CarlMI
White Post, VA United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 724

Pushing pawns without support tends to make them fall.  This is why openings like the Alekhine, KID, etc. work.

 

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