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Boom2219

How do you play it after the first moves 1.e4 c5?

MEV_d_LM

Boom2219

I meant what is the strategy I should use after the first moves? What should my goals be?

GIex

Your first goal should be to be able to complete development in a consistent way. Forget about opening variations until then. You shouldn't force yourself to play the Sicilian if you don't know what its goals are, or any other opening for that matter.

ShortyICC
Sred

I understand that he played it once, a few months before his death - a typical Tal opening!

Mister-Horse
simplyradioactive wrote:
ShortyICC wrote:
 

Thanks ShortyICC for my rescue... Aprreciate it!

Should we reply back to pfren and ask "what have you been smoking"?

Sred
Mister-Horse wrote:
simplyradioactive wrote:
ShortyICC wrote:
 

Thanks ShortyICC for my rescue... Aprreciate it!

Should we reply back to pfren and ask "what have you been smoking"?

Just because he was just almost right instead of totally right?

toiyabe

Tal was probably half in the bag when he played 2.d4 that ONE time.  

Mister-Horse
Sred wrote:
Mister-Horse wrote:
simplyradioactive wrote:
ShortyICC wrote:
 

Thanks ShortyICC for my rescue... Aprreciate it!

Should we reply back to pfren and ask "what have you been smoking"?

Just because he was just almost right instead of totally right?

Either your right or not. Being almost right would probably get you killed.

Sred
Mister-Horse wrote:
Sred wrote:
Mister-Horse wrote:
simplyradioactive wrote:
ShortyICC wrote:
 

Thanks ShortyICC for my rescue... Aprreciate it!

Should we reply back to pfren and ask "what have you been smoking"?

Just because he was just almost right instead of totally right?

Either your right or not. Being almost right would probably get you killed.

Depends. In this case pfren was formally incorrect, but the point behind his false statement still applies: the Morra wasn't part of Tal's repertoire.

JGambit

sure he played it in a offhand game once out of the millions of games he has played but I agree with pfren, no one should say playing the morra is playing like tal.

TheGreatOogieBoogie
pfren wrote:
simplyradioactive wrote:

There are books after books written on the sicilian... but I expect you to use Yoguslav attack, keres attack, closed sicilian or if you're feeling like Tal then play the smith morra gambit!

Tal never employed the Morra, or any other speculative gambit.

I always thought of the Morra as one of the only sound gambits left joining the ranks of the Tal (another Sicilian goodie after 1.e4,c5 2.f4?!,d5!), Benko, From, Budapest, Reti, Lasker, Staunton, Manhattan (AKA Krejcik's, those last three are against the Dutch), Urusov (kind of), Falkbeer-countergambit and last but certainly not least the Evan's.  Then again many people have different definitions of "sound", and here I mean something better than dubious, even if it's still suboptimal (1.d4,f5 2.Nf3! is superior to 2.g4!? of course, even here we find an amazing gambit with 2...g6?! mark given due to the fact it potentially leads to 3.h4!,Nf6 4.h5,Nxh5 5.Rxh5!,gxh5 6.e4 where white has good compensation for the exchange in the form of black's busted kingside and the e-pawn cannot be touched due to a forced mate in eight: 6...fxe4?? 7.Ne5,e6 8.Qxh5+,Ke7 9.Qf7+,Kd6 10.Nc3,c6 11.Nc4+,Kc7 12.Bf4+,e5 13.Bxe5+,Bd6 14.Bxd6#)

 

I'd rather just transpose into a sensible line of the Alapin with 3.c3,Nf6!? since white is playing the Smith-Morra it can and should be assumed that he knows the territory and theory quite well. Any 1...c5 player should have a pet line against the Alapin handy and I like 2...Nf6! as it invites white to overexpand and has an Alekhine's Defense feel.