Smith Morra Gambit

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6th January 2008, 05:10pm
#1
by mhbat14
Cincinnati United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 54

Hey I'm looking for someone to play black from smith morra gambit[B21](1. e4 c5 2.d4  cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3)  If anyone's interested please challenge me to a game titled Smith Morra, rated or unrated is up to you it really makes no difference to me. 

If anyone has any advice about playing SM gambit I could really use the advice. Thanks to all and peace til later.

7th January 2008, 04:00pm
#2
by MaNNy8-a
South Gate United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 37
????????? can you explain???????????
7th January 2008, 04:32pm
#3
by knotamaster
Wisconsin United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 31

It's unsound!!

7th January 2008, 04:54pm
#4
by erik
Mountain View, CA United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 6985
i'll say this: i HATE playing against the smith morra!
7th January 2008, 05:41pm
#5
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1774
Although it's unsound, it's full of traps.  Black gets a slight advantage with accurate play from both sides.  Here are some of the traps...
8th January 2008, 03:13pm
#6
by Fromper
Boynton Beach, FL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 357

KillaBeez, your first example doesn't make any sense. White can win the queen with 8. Bxf7+ in that one, just like in the second one. This is why black usually plays e6 early in the SMG, usually right after white plays Bc4, to weaken the bishop's attack on f7.

 

Here's a move order that you need to be aware of when playing either side of this gambit: 

 

 

Also, watch out for the Siberian Trap if you play the SMG as white:

 

 

These are all pretty easy traps to avoid as long as you know about them. 

--Fromper 


8th January 2008, 03:44pm
#7
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1774
Fromper, my first example makes perfect sense.  White cannot win Black's Queen with Bxf7+ because the Knight on c6 defends the Queen.  In the second example, the Knight on c6 is gone, so Black's Queen is hanging
8th January 2008, 08:44pm
#8
by invertebrae
chicago United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 72

i've recently been trying the SMG in my games as white, and i really like it. i think it fits my style of play, more of an open board, with traps abound.

 

...ryan 


8th January 2008, 10:30pm
#9
by Fromper
Boynton Beach, FL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 357
KillaBeez wrote: Fromper, my first example makes perfect sense.  White cannot win Black's Queen with Bxf7+ because the Knight on c6 defends the Queen.  In the second example, the Knight on c6 is gone, so Black's Queen is hanging

 Doh! Sorry, that's what I get for posting from work without really studying the position properly.

 

--Fromper 


9th January 2008, 07:05am
#10
by Fromper
Boynton Beach, FL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 357

What's so special about 4. ... a6? Obviously, white needs to respond with 5. Bc4, before black gets a chance to play b5, but that would seem to me to just transpose to the same main lines of the gambit that I normally play as white.

 

--Fromper 


9th January 2008, 07:12am
#11
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 1329

Chess Mentor has a nice lesson on the SMG. I think that lesson offers good advice for black.

 

Erik: Please remove that lesson! It might be harmfull for my SMG Fun Time as white Wink 

9th January 2008, 08:04am
#12
by mhbat14
Cincinnati United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 54
The a6 is giving me problems as white.  Does anyone have any suggestions against it after black plays b5 I end up going piece for 3 pawns(really piece for 2 pawns after gambit pawn is returned) then trading bishops does any one have any better suggestions.
9th January 2008, 08:19am
#13
by Fromper
Boynton Beach, FL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 357
mhbat14 wrote: The a6 is giving me problems as white.  Does anyone have any suggestions against it after black plays b5 I end up going piece for 3 pawns(really piece for 2 pawns after gambit pawn is returned) then trading bishops does any one have any better suggestions.

 Again, I'm confused. Can you give an example of the line you're talking about?

 

Here's a good tutorial on the SMG:

 

http://www.chessville.com/instruction/Openings/Smith-Morra/

 

--Fromper 


16th April 2008, 03:59am
#14
by kaos2008
leicester United Kingdom
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 94
Fromper wrote: mhbat14 wrote: The a6 is giving me problems as white.  Does anyone have any suggestions against it after black plays b5 I end up going piece for 3 pawns(really piece for 2 pawns after gambit pawn is returned) then trading bishops does any one have any better suggestions.

 Again, I'm confused. Can you give an example of the line you're talking about?

 

Here's a good tutorial on the SMG:

 

http://www.chessville.com/instruction/Openings/Smith-Morra/

 

--Fromper 


the link provided is down!!

 


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16th April 2008, 08:06pm
#15
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 581
the smith morra gambit is completely sound
1st August 2008, 06:56pm
#16
by sicilliandissecter
MIchigan United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 17

im just wondering, usually when black responds with e6 instead of d6 early on, why does white still place bishop on c4?

2nd August 2008, 12:57pm
#17
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 581

c4 is still the best square for the bishop, Be2 is to passive, Bd3 blocks the d file, Bb5 is pointless, and g3, Bg2 is to slow. 

 

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