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so why did YOU leave 1.e4 e5?


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    tigergutt

    it seems most chessplayers start out with 1.e4 e5 but most people start other openings at their opposition gets better.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    tigergutt

    i can give one reason of mine. i left 1.e4 e5 because of this line

    despite nc3 is worse than a plan with c3 and d3/e4 is not exactly exiting for black and in addition this Nc3 seems to be recommended to beginners by many players making it even more popular for white. so i left 1.e4 but came back after a few months because 1) it was just about the only line i dont like with 1.e4 e5 and 2) no matter what openingmoves i play there is some way to kill the fun anyway so i just stay with 1.e4 e5

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    tigergutt

    interestning post!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    lollolbuddha

    to avoid ruylopez which has a ton load of theory,I don't want to play people who have memorized moves. Yell

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    tigergutt

    its a valid argument. i have solved the problem by playing the berlin wall. i bought the 60 minuts berlinwallvideo by Leonid Kritz(recommended by Pfren on this board). the mainline is covered ok in only 18 minuts while the rest is about white other tries like 4.d3, 5.e1 and stuff like that. but the berlinwall its not to everyones taste. its ambitious enough for me since i dont face the lopez often when i play e5 because white is afraid of theory

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    ivandh

    e5 is too symmetrical for my taste. I like to play 1... e6 2... c5, it leads to some nice tense positions, and at my level it throws a lot of people out of book which gets me out of having to study opening theory.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    tigergutt

    ivandh wrote:

    e5 is too symmetrical for my taste. I like to play 1... e6 2... c5, it leads to some nice tense positions, and at my level it throws a lot of people out of book which gets me out of having to study opening theory.

    as a way to transpose to the sicilian? i agree e5 can get symmetrical. i solved some of it by playing the two knights defence. in the french i had the popular exchangevariation and in the sicilian it was just ridicolous much to prepare for. i guess its a matter of taste:)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    moonnie

    I still play e5

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    ivandh

    tigergutt wrote:
    ivandh wrote:

    e5 is too symmetrical for my taste. I like to play 1... e6 2... c5, it leads to some nice tense positions, and at my level it throws a lot of people out of book which gets me out of having to study opening theory.

    as a way to transpose to the sicilian? i agree e5 can get symmetrical. i solved some of it by playing the two knights defence. in the french i had the popular exchangevariation and in the sicilian it was just ridicolous much to prepare for. i guess its a matter of taste:)

    Like I say I tend to avoid opening theory, so I don't look at it as a transposition, certainly not to the Sicilian! Rather, it emphasizes the aspects of the French by staking a strong claim on the q-side, and often leads to dynamic positions that offer lots to think about.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    zugzwangiz

    I don't play 1 e4 because I don't like making a mistake in the opening.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    binblaster

    I play 1. e4 as white but I prefer 1. ...e6 as black.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    blake78613

    tigergutt wrote:
    ivandh wrote:

    e5 is too symmetrical for my taste. I like to play 1... e6 2... c5, it leads to some nice tense positions, and at my level it throws a lot of people out of book which gets me out of having to study opening theory.

    as a way to transpose to the sicilian? i agree e5 can get symmetrical. i solved some of it by playing the two knights defence. in the french i had the popular exchangevariation and in the sicilian it was just ridicolous much to prepare for. i guess its a matter of taste:)

    Two Knights defense doesn't avoid it if White plays 4.d3

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    Daeru

    How can anyone leave Italian?!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    tigergutt

    blake78613 wrote:
    tigergutt wrote:
    ivandh wrote:

    e5 is too symmetrical for my taste. I like to play 1... e6 2... c5, it leads to some nice tense positions, and at my level it throws a lot of people out of book which gets me out of having to study opening theory.

    as a way to transpose to the sicilian? i agree e5 can get symmetrical. i solved some of it by playing the two knights defence. in the french i had the popular exchangevariation and in the sicilian it was just ridicolous much to prepare for. i guess its a matter of taste:)

    Two Knights defense doesn't avoid it if White plays 4.d3

    but black has some interestning lines after 4...Be7:)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #16

    MaartenSmit

    I can't remember ever playing ...e5 seriously.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17

    Bubatz

    I left 1.e4 and 1...e5 because of too much theory plain and simple.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #18

    Boletus_CZ

    Since I like and play (as white) the English a lot I think it was  natural to leave 1.e4 e5 for the Sicilian when black.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #19

    Here_Is_Plenty

    I did play e5 about 20 years ago as I went through a phase of liking the Petrov defence, not sure why now.  (1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nf6).  Sicilian all the way now for most of last 20 years.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #20

    ArnesonStidgeley

    Because I preferred the calm waters of the Dragon to the sharp lines of the Petrov - or something.


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