Hi I wonder if this endgame is winning for white by force:

I think it is. Black can't do anything with his pawns if white doesn't oblige him so white simple has to create a king side passer, move across to the queenside and win the black pawns.

Yes, this is winning. Though I haven't tried to win it myself vs Rybka...

Ah, the siren call of the Ruy Exchange endgame... "Look at that pawn structure!  I have a won game, all I have to do is swap off all the pieces!"

Unfortunately, you're saying that at a point at which all the pieces are still on the board -- except for the bishop you just gave up for a knight, giving your opponent an advantage in return.  Suffice to say that you have a long way to go to get to that king-and-pawn endgame, and White's scores in the line are a far cry from a won game -- in fact, significantly worse than the mainline Ruy.

Yes, the ending favors white with the Ruy exchange pawn structure, but the middlegame favors black due to his 2 bishops. This opening doesnt suit me at all due to the fact that the endgame is NOT my strength. Is it yours ? If it isnt I wouldnt play the Ruy exchange as white.

The following 1940 study by former world champion Max Euwe outlines a path for the given Spanish Exchange position with only pawns and kings:

Thx for answers

I played ruy lopez mainline before, but i am only about 1500 and i just have no idea how to attack in main close variations when i am forced to play d5, moreover i dont think that on my level those two bishops of black are important in exchange variation, i play ruy lopez as black too and i must admit that i prefer playing mainline than exchange spanish. Apart from this, i feel that by playing mainline i move like a machine, which probably isnt too good for improving, i dont know if sticking to exchange is a good idea, but i suppose i will try it

You know what's interesting though... isn't it possible to eventually force most trades to get to an endgame like this? If it's possible, wouldn't be a forced win for white or at least close? You could say black's bishops give him compensation, but what even is compensation? If it was truly enough, black could force his pawn structure to be fixed or get some other permenant advantage before the two bishop strength went away. That can happen but you'd think with perfect play white could get to an endgame with only a few pieces if he played perfectly. This is all purely theoretically speaking, I'm not saying anyone is good enough to actually do that. But there should be more theory on the ruy exchange and it should go extremely deep to see if this in fact happens.

I've heard similar sentiments, but /shrug, it's not been my experience as a Black e5 player -- personally, I have a perfect record against the Exchange variation.  Wait... why am I telling people not to play it?

What variation do u play? I am asking coz i wonder what defence choose myself, i am thinking about Qd6 defence