18816 Players currently online!
Man vs. Machine - good luck!
Turn-based games at any time!
Vote for the best move to win!
Do you have what it takes?
Backgammon, Yatzy, and more!
Sharpen your tactical vision!
Get advice and game insights!
Learn from top players & pros!
View millions of master games!
Your virtual chess coach!
Perfect your opening moves!
Test your skills vs. computer!
Find the right private coach!
Can you solve it each day?
Bring it all together!
Beginners, start here!
Make friends & play team games!
News from the world of chess!
Search all Chess.com members!
Find local clubs & events!
Who's the best of your friends?
Read what members are saying!
GM Roman Dzindzichashvili claims that the Budapest Gambit is unsound.
Is this true?
He showed a different line than the one I've seen promoted:
at GM level it probably is 'unsound'. But it is not refuted.
It's neither unsound or refuted.
I think Roman forgot my variation.
yea he didnt say it was refuted....white just gets a better position after returning the pawn.
It isn't something a gambit player really wants....
It is refuted though. Black gets nothing in return according to his analysis.
That's called a refutation. Apparently the knight has to return Nh6 and black has a bad game, if we follow Roman's calculations.
He doesn't even mention capturing the knight.
In that variation I think white gets the doubled pawns but the queen comes to d5 and holds onto the pawn. Alternatively, white can avoid the doubled pawns, but by placing a piece on d2, which allows black to regain the pawn. Both lines are probably somewhat better for white.
refuation means forcing a loss, it doesnt mean getting a clear advantage, an opening like this is called a dubious opening, please get your vocabulary straightened out.
A refutation isn't a forced loss.
Refute: to prove to be false or erroneous, as an opinion or charge.
He claims that this gambit is just a giant misstep by black, hence erroneous.
Theoretically, if White knows his theory on the Budapest, he is usually better out of the opening. I probably will blog this at some later point. However, I can tell you that in the last couple of months, I have played the Budapest as Black against both FM Strugatsky and IM Formanek and have gotten very comfortable positions out of the opening in both. So my guess is that very few people actually know the theory that well. Which makes sense, because if you look at the percentages, how often is the Budapest played?
Unfortunately the aftermath is that I lost both games, but one was because of an endgame mistake that I got squeezed on, the other was a bad blunder in the middle game that cost me an exchange - but had nothing to do with the opening.
Did you watch the video or see my analysis?
I don't see how black has a good game.
You do realize black can just play 8...Qa3, right?
It's played far less often then f6 and white wins 66.7% of the time in the chess.com database. I wouldn't say that black has had much success in that line.
Chess.com has one of the worst databases I have ever seen. Stick with a more reliable method.
And this is the line that was probably analyzed where the knight goes to h6.
Okay, rybka - (10...Nh6 Rybka 2.3.2a mp 32-bit 0.91 (depth 12) 11.e3 Ne7 12.Qc5 Nc6 13.Be2 Qb2 14.e4 b6 15.Qe3)
Oh, that must be a really old version.
Mine gives 0.22 for white.
i will check
Mamedyarov, Gharamian, Moskalenko and Sulskis have had great results with the sharp 4...g5 line. I strongly doubt that none of them knew about Dzindzi's "refutation". Oh no, Dzindzi doesn't even mention that 4...g5 exists- hardly a surprise.
His Nd2 line is actually what I used to play as white a few years ago, but white's advantage is rather too minuscule if Black knows his stuff. IMO the plan of developing the Bishop via b2 has much, much more poison.
Why didn't you spell his whole last name?
"2015 Sinquefield Cup Round 8"
Players here badly underrated
by ChessPatzer987 a few minutes ago
1 d4 c5
by pfren 4 minutes ago
four ebony sets
by aristotele1 6 minutes ago
CHESS MENTOR INFINTE HACK!!!!
by Ziryab 7 minutes ago
8/31/2015 - The Hunt
by ProfessorIQ180 8 minutes ago
Do you mention chess on dates?
by Pulpofeira 9 minutes ago
What makes a world champion?
by GShimmy 17 minutes ago
Why Chess Endings are FAR MORE IMPORTANT than Chess Openings
by Chicken_Monster 17 minutes ago
Who Will Win The 2015 Sinquefield Cup? And who will win Grand Chess Tour.
by DamonevicSmithlov 23 minutes ago
Finally played a smothered mate
by GShimmy 28 minutes ago
Why Join | Chess Topics |
Help & Support |
© 2015 Chess.com
• Chess - English
We are working hard to make Chess.com available in over 70 languages. Check back over the year as we develop the technology to add more, and we will try our best to notify you when your language is ready for translating!