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ooooooooooooooooh thanks! I'll take a look at all this
Woahhhh. That's pretty incredible..
Would you mind me asking you about whether or not the Traxler's Counterattack actually works then?
If white plays 5.Nxf7, then the position is equal.
If white plays 5.d4, I think the position is close to equal, but newer theory is indicating that the older main lines are not as good for black as previously thought.
If white plays 5.Bxf7+, then black has to watch his move carefully or otherwise he will be in trouble. With best play, black has to accept some disadvantage, but he can still go for the draw. Despite saying this, white has to know the pathway to this advantage as natural moves can be punished. It takes a lot longer for the initiative to develop in this variation then the Nxf7 variation, but it is just as deadly.
So, I guess you could say that it is playable in the sense that the Latvian Gambit is playable (except that it has a lot more winning chances for black and a lot less losing lines). But don't play the old main line 5.Bxf7+ Ke7 6.Bb3 Rf8? as it is roasted by 7.Nc3.
Amazing. Okay thanks!
this is the old remedy to the Fried Liver...
There is an article in the July 2009 issue of Chess Life Magazine that covers the fried liver attack and lolli attack. It's pretty good, you can view it online if you are a USCF member.
@caesarII: 14. Qxe5+ and material is not even anymore! Plus, white still has the option of castling to either side. I'd rather play white here.
Who in their right mind wants to get fried livered or lolli attacked? At least E4H5 only wastes a single turn with no loss in pieces.
That is the second time today I have viewed a FLA with Black placing his King on e6. I have seen other exmples where the King is at e6 as far out as move 19 and the advantage was slight for White.
Good line though. Reminds me why I play the KIA and Spanish with the White pieces.
6. ... Na5 refutes the FLA
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5 6.Nxf7 Na5?! seems rather risky if you ask me.
I know I'm not a grandmaster or anything, but in my 3000+ games I have found that the best response to ng5 is still the Traxler because people
#1.) See a fork and go "ohhhhhhh I want pawn and rook"
#2.) Go hmm, desperation that person sacrifices a bishop
#3.) People who play ng5 are usally highly agressive players and don't play well defensively.
After whatever white does black takes the rook with a tempo
Actually, I think the 2 knights in general is not played so much at the top because it's generally acknowleged that black doesn't get enough for the pawn. But yes, if the 2 knights is played it's nearly always with Na5 in mind.
Actually, I don't think that's so true. The two knight's is played quite often at higher level.. in my database there are around 70,000 with Bc5 and 61,000 with Nf6.
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