Along with the French, this is the opening I always lose to. I just can't seem to crack the buggar. Does anyone have either some information on the objectives for both sides in this opening, or some articles or websites they can point me towards? Even some master games may be useful, but objectives are obviously more ideal.

Thanks!

In the KID, as White, u need to destroy black on the quenside with b4, Nf3-e1-d3, Rc1, c5, etc.

I thought the point was a kingside attack? Or you are saying I need to secure the queenside before I try to wallop him on the Kingside?

I've won against this opening before.

ok, wait do u mean the kings indian attack or kings indian defense?

im confused

try "King's Indian Attack" in the search box, you should find some interesting stuff

if you mean againgt the kings indian defece the big cenre with queenside breakthrugh is one statergy i can think of

As soon as you don't know what to do anymore, Type the following in your opponents message box: You realise this line has been refuted?

Then play h4....

Seriously though, I don't like playing against it either....

There's a chess.com thematic tournament starting this weekend for the King's Indian Defense... you might sign up and get some experience playing in/against it!

As far as objectives for each side, that's a discussion far beyond what one could put in a quick summary -- part of the appeal of the defense is the theoretical complexity and variety.  For instance, in the Classical variation, White tends to attack on the queenside, while Black pawn-storms the kingside.  In the Samisch variation, the opposite is true -- it's White castling queenside and attacking down the h-file.  In the Four Pawns Attack, White tends to try to go right up the center.  Other variations have different objectives.  Vastly different play may occur depending on how Black eventually stakes a claim in the center (e5 or c5).  You see what I mean.

I would by no means consider myself an expert on the opening, but I did learn a lot about it by playing through Bronstein's excellent book on the Zurich 1964 tournament.  The King's Indian was all the rage then, so there are dozens of well-annotated games from the world's strongest GMs.

This is super! I laughed a lot.  Thanks for this.

As this topic is named like "The Kids Indian Defence" i presume it is very big upset for you to lose against some children's defence and then have no any chance to find at least a little bit of information about how to play it.  Sure, because the whole chess.com site have no material and no single topic about Kids Defence! The total mystery! How to play it?!?!?!  Sorry for this joke, dont take offence.

If you knew the correct name of defence - The King's Indian Defence (KID), then you would easly find the very good lessons about it in the chess mentor. As you are diamond member and have full access to chess mentor there is no reason to refuse such a very good and instructive resource as chess mentor at chess.com. In lessons about KID explained all objectives about each of the variations, so study anytime and grow in your strength.  Or, if you prefer, there is a lot of good books about, and forum topics at this site also (but topics are not even close as good as mentor lessons and books).

Ssssshhhhhh don't tell him anything... I plan to play him with King Indian Defense.

Hehe... hope you don't have copyright on that... gonna have fun with this one. It might be my only hope.

Nice opening line, defending against The King Indian Attack with the Intimidation Attack!!

There's a course on Chess Mentor on the KID? I will definately check that out.

I didn't realise there were so many variations of it... Maybe I should learn a couple.

Thanks for the input!

Maybe even many courses, i just saw one.

Not sure if you're asking about the KID playing white or playing black.

lol... it's much more complex than that. Of course there are some lines like in the samisch where white may castle queenside and play g4 and h4 but he won't necessarily have time for that because the fight in the center that black makes with ...c5 (most popular against the samisch to exploit the weak dark squares and sluggish development) so usually white has to keep his dark sqaures in the center protected first. Meanwhile in the classical (the most popular) white eventually closes the center with play on the queenside, black on the other wing. But it's an extremely complex and rich opening, in the insane closed positions, the subtle lines after ...exd4, and when there is still tension in the center! Where each side wants the other to commit in the center and black can also play moves like ...a6 and ...b5 and keep the tension in the center to undermine the c4 pawn. This may sound confusing if you haven't played the king's indian, and I could go on and on and on, but the point is it's very complex both tactically and positionally and you can't just settle it with "I'm just going to fling all my pawns on the kingside" because the center is often more important to take care of first. But it all depends.

you really sound like you know your KID Elubas.... If you ever feel like tutoring anyone in KID, I wouldn't say no... I know the opening well, but struggling in my middle game... have just learned it is best to hit with a pawn front on kingside... after opening... it is a complex opening... but I am hoping I will become a better KID player soon..

The most common strategy for black is attack on the kingside with ...f5, as long as white closed the center with d5. But like I said there are many others and if white plays a certain way black can't do this plan.

That's a handy tip Elubas.. thanks...