Nacht white doesnt do qxd4 he does nb5, it wont let me quote my comments just check pages 10 and 11 for all refutations and i will challenge you tommorrow
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mateologist wrote:
NachtWulf that is why experienced players never chose that patzers opening , That is the first attack novices learn when playing d4 with the white pieces there is nothing new here !
I'm afraid that I am a novice myself in that regard, since I never actually looked at queen's pawn openings (1. d4 d5 etc.) until now. It's never too late to learn, though!
I will stick with my KG gavinator, plus ever here of Sarcasm, Spassky used it, Fischer used it, Short beat Kasparov with it, pretty strong players who used it I think
actually if Qf3 then Ke6 Black has a defedable posistion.
It's actually quite difficult jet fighter - even in master games (they are experts at defense) white scores extremely well.
yeah, but white is by no means fully won, Black has some shots of his own, especially with the traxler Instead of d5 when Ng5 its Bc5
Yeah, but the traxler is refuted by Bxf7+ which just wins a pawn. I think that the only legitimate way to play the two knights is with d5 exd5 Na5 which is a legitamite opening.
whatupyodog wrote:
Nacht white doesnt do qxd4 he does nb5, it wont let me quote my comments just check pages 10 and 11 for all refutations and i will challenge you tommorrow
Is this what you're talking about?
This is what he is talking about with Nb5.
oh before anyone ever calls me a patzer again, here is a game of mine
jetfigher, you're opponent made some obvious mistakes. however it was a win, but in a correspondence game. I don't like to count those as skill, as cheating is easy with engines/discussion with other players.
I don't even have an engine, and I don't talk about my games, or listen to advice on current games, plus, notice the comment I put at the start
yeah, I could say I beat kasporav in a 3 day match, but that doesn't mean I didn't engine.
how can I use one, if I don't have one??
jetfighter, please stay on topic, discussing this opening and any possible lines to it.
I was just saying, that before anyone calls me a patzer, they actually look at the entire body of games they play, plus I was rather offended by whatup's outbursts calling whomever dissagreed with him complete garbage, you at least have a semi open mind, and can be persuaded in some instances, and understand sarcasm. anyway, any responce to my Gambit line in your opening.
me too for that challange, just unrated, cause the rating does't matter, plus I only like rated games for serious encounters, this is just for opening study, and will be friendly, I will not bash anyone.