I guess white is not in a bad position here. Why does everybody tell that Nc3 is not good?

In this variation, because of 7...Qd5! after which white's position look pretty grim. 8.Nxc6 Qxb5 9.Nd4 Qg5 where black has the bishop pair och white loses his ability to castle. 8.Bxc6+ bxc6 9.d4 Ba6 also makes castling difficult while black can develop easily (and yet again hold the bishop pair).

I see no problem at all with 6.Bd3 dxe4  7.Bxe4. This might not offer as much of a chance of advantage as other choices, but it is easy to understand and recommendable for beginners.

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And when takes Knight with check? And after that takes the Bishop with check?

Can't say I understand what you meant there. Just to clarify myself (in case you misunderstood me), instead of your 7...Bd7 black should play 7...Qd5, forking knight and bishop.

If white captures with the knight (not check), black takes white's bishop and leaves the knight alone for the time being. If white instead takes with the bishop first, black simply recaptures for better development and strong initiative.

 

 

Indeed, 6.Bd3 is white's best move. As you also point out, black already have equality there.

That wouldn't work for me. I like to keep both of my Bishops on the field. Bishops over all are better than Knights, but before we go wild with the old Bishop vs Knight theory, Knights are better in a cramp positions.

I play Two Knights, but not this variation. Usually when I play it I hope someone hits me with FLA, then the fun begins.

My most used opening is 1.d4 ,d5 Bg5. Something Trompowsky.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the original poster's question rich.

Thats not the tromp Rich, look it up. I already told you this before, why are you so hard headed?

Because he likes to be right.  For example, in a debate I could state over and over that the moon is made of cheese.  This is not true regardless of my opinion.  Rich seems to think that everything he says is true and that people are simply ignorant if they ignore him.

I keep seeing this 4.Nc3, like four times in the past month between Online & Live chess.  I would have thought there was some sexy new analysis that was recommending it, except that everyone seemed pretty befuddled by the obvious 4...Nxe4 response.

I don't think the line is completely disastrous for white after 6.Bd3, but it gives black the initiative and easy equality for no reason or benefit.  If you're not interested in the murky 4.Ng5 lines, I think you're better off playing the Max Lange attack with 4.d4.

Or playing d3 with c3 to come with a modern positional game.

It is a form of the Trompowsky but it has a name before the Trompowsky part, I just can't remember it right now, that's why I put something Trompowsky.

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Rich,

so you admit you don't know what you are talking about (off topic as it is), but you thought it was still good enough to waste our time, anyway! Way to go rich!

 

ON TOPIC:

5 0-0 with a lead in development and a fine game.

 

EDIT: Just took a look through game Explorer, and it seems that the position after 4....Nxe4 is not so good for White, after all. Anyway, what's wrong with playing 4. Ng5 (lots of fun) or 4. d4 (maybe objectively best)?

Yeah I do, I can just look it up.

4. Nc3 wouldn't be my first choice, but is playable if you see the gambit through (Boden-Kieseritzky Gambit) 4. ...Nxe4  5. O-O.  Black still has an advantage if prepared.

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How can someboby with 11,000+ posts not know the Queen's Bishop Attack?  Is that like a joke?  1. d4 Nf6  2. Bg5 is Trompowski.