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12th February 2009, 06:05pm
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by fischeryouth
Autorive France
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In your opinion what is the most underrated opening. my vote goes to either the Nimzo-Larsen (1.b3) or the English (1.C4)

12th February 2009, 06:07pm
#2
by fischeryouth
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plz post

12th February 2009, 06:09pm
#3
by fischeryouth
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plz

12th February 2009, 06:12pm
#4
by Eniamar
Ohio United States
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The english is hardly underrated, it's one of the top 5 most popular opening in grandmaster play.

12th February 2009, 06:14pm
#5
by fischeryouth
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wow didnt know that kool :)

12th February 2009, 06:21pm
#6
by GMMoron
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1. e4-e5 2. Ke2. It tends to antecede various tactically rife positions. Examine my games as an example.

12th February 2009, 06:22pm
#7
by Muscalu
Romania
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The bird's opening 1.f4 is underrated, its a strong opening choice and leads to unbalanced positions

12th February 2009, 06:30pm
#8
by fischeryouth
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muscalu i agree i have played it several times and it has worked out reasonably well

12th February 2009, 06:32pm
#9
by Spiffe
Orlando, FL United States
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If I had to pick the most underrated first move?  1.Nc3.

But if I can pick an opening system or variation, a few candidates leap to mind.  The Vienna Game (1.e4 e5 2.Nc3), Bishop's Opening (1.e4 e5 2.Bc4), and Mexican Defense (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 Nc6) are all sound and score well, yet I seldom see anyone playing or talking about them.  I guess it's sexier to play something really glaringly offbeat like Bird's Opening or the Orangutan, rather than something that's just out of style.

12th February 2009, 06:34pm
#10
by Mm40
Essex County, New Jersey United States
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Definitely the Mexican defense (also known as the Black Knights Tango). Jeremy Silman has a very nice piece about it (http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_shrtcts/01_black_knights_tango.html). It goes 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 Nc3!?.

12th February 2009, 06:36pm
#11
by fischeryouth
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ooh i might try the mexican thx guys :)

12th February 2009, 06:38pm
#12
by Mm40
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I guess Spiffe and I both think highly of the Mexican. I reccomend it Smile

12th February 2009, 06:39pm
#13
by Eniamar
Ohio United States
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I like Nc3, I was playing my dad earlier this week and despite the fact that he's weaker than I am, I had some initial trouble adapting to the position it lead to.

Also a possibility is 1.a3 with the possibility of transposing into several openings, often reversed ones so you have an extra tempo in hand over the normal variation as black.

12th February 2009, 06:40pm
#14
by gabrielconroy
London United Kingdom
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Mm40 wrote:

Definitely the Mexican defense (also known as the Black Knights Tango). Jeremy Silman has a very nice piece about it (http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_opng_shrtcts/01_black_knights_tango.html). It goes 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 Nc3!?.


Unless I'm being pedantic, that 2...Nc3?! definitely deserves the punctuation. I think I'm being pedantic. Might try that out, after I've got a better feel for the Benoni as a response to d4.

12th February 2009, 06:41pm
#15
by fischeryouth
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yeah i have seen 1. a3 repeatedly for those who want to do reversed openings.

12th February 2009, 06:47pm
#16
by mhtraylor
Mississippi United States
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I think the Chigorin Defense is underrated, or at least I haven't seen anyone mention it much here theory-wise.

Chess is funny sometimes. Like Spiffe said, openings come and go fashion-wise. No doubt, in a few years some top GM will play the Vienna Game or Bishop's Opening and whoosh! Here come the "Win with the Violatile Vienna!" and "Blast 'em with the Bishop's!" books and DVDs. We'll buy the books, watch Roman's Labs on screen, and buy the time we play them our opponents will have seen the "Violate the Vienna with 2...whatever" and humiliate us. A vicious, vicious cycle.

12th February 2009, 06:48pm
#17
by fischeryouth
Autorive France
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thats depressing and interesting at the same time :P

12th February 2009, 07:03pm
#18
by BorgQueen
Adelaide Australia
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GMMoron wrote:1. e4-e5 2. Ke2. It tends to antecede various tactically rife positions. Examine my games as an example.

A club-mate recently played this against me... I literally laughed at it.  I had not seen anything like it and I continued with normal developing moves. 

He said I played the opening really well and that the opening white played only works IF black tries too hard to go after the king.

12th February 2009, 07:38pm
#19
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 938

The Chigorin Dfense is really underrated. I think the Falkbeer counter-gambit is also underrated. 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5 e4

12th February 2009, 08:01pm
#20
by Cratercat
Santa Clara United States
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I think the King's Gambit Bishop's Gambit 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 gets my vote as underrated.

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