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The man behind the Indian Defences = Bonnerjee Mohishunder
Read the link below:
He played a lot of games with John Cochrane during 1850's
I'm guessing the spellcheck gremlins got at that one. Fianchetto is Italian and pronounced "fyanketto", more or less.
No, it's correct. "fiancée toto" is a mix of French and Latin, translating roughly as "totally engaged", referring to the close relationship between the bishop and the king in such positions.
thats cool I was playing over his giuoco piano games the other day
goes back to Indian players in 1884.
i used to think of the fianchettoed bishop as being like an American Indian hiding with a bow and arrow, an interpretation i've always preferred myself.
American Indians are descendants of Indian people living in America. I believe you are talking about Native Americans, though Indians also had bows and arrows.
No, they'd be Indian-Americans. Just about everyone who uses the term "American Indians" understands it to apply to Native Americans, First Nations, red varmints, take your pick. Also I understand that certain American Aboriginals object to being called "Native Americans" since a bunch of white interlopers had no right to name a continent and its people after some European mapmaker, and if you're not referring to a specific tribe or people then you might just as well say "Indian" which at least lets them chuckle at whitey's minor geographical error.
(Similar considerations hold with Eskimos, many of whom would rather be called Eskimos than Inuit, since many of them aren't Inuit and resent the Inuit claiming to represent the whole. The Inuit, of course... well, you can probably guess.)
as a proud warrior people you'd think they wouldn't complain as much when better warriors came along and changed things around
In Indian chess the rook is called haathi meaning elephant.Bishop is oont (camel)Knight is ghoda (horse)Queen is vazeer (minister) or rani (queen)
It's a typo. They were invented in Indiana. Right outside of Muncie, in fact.
I'm not kidding...you can Google it. Nimzovitch spent years in the Hoosier state, honing his craft on the banks of the Wabash.
So they should actually be called Indiana openings, Indianan openings - or even Indianian openings?
anyway those burmese guys are pretty funny
I had a similar thought about it. My interpretation was that the three pawns looked like a tepee.
Pushing one of the pawns (b2, b7, g2, g7) creates a triangle with the two other pawns beside it. Next you have the bishop go into that triangle like a person going into the tepee. It's just a matter of connecting the dots, or pawns in this case.
I believe that India was the last to go to modern chess with respect to pushing the pawn two squares on its first move. The bishop fianchetto was a good choice back in the day when pawns could not be advanced two squares.
The player Mosihunder is responsible for introducing the fianchetto to Westerners.
He played the first Nimzo-Indian and the first King's Indian.
"Bonnerjee Mohishunder (sometimes given as, e.g., Moheschunder Bannerjee or Mahesh Chandra Banerjee) was born around 1800 near Calcutta, India. Philip W Sergeant described him as having been as of 1848 <a Brahman in the Mofussil-up country, as we might say-who had never been beaten at chess!> Hundreds of his games survive through the writings of John Cochrane, who regularly played him between 1848 and 1860, during Cochrane's tenure at the Calcutta bar.
Mohishunder originally played traditional Indian chess, in which pawns did not have the option of moving two squares from the starting row and pawns would promote to the piece of the square reached. He probably learned Western rules after contact with Cochrane and other Europeans.
Cochrane is quoted in a letter written by a member of the Calcutta Chess Club, appearing in the Chess Player's Chronicle in 1850:
The only player here who has any chance whatever with Mr Cochrane, upon even terms, is a Brahmin of the name of Moheschunder Bonnerjee. Of this worthy, Mr Cochrane has himself remarked that he possesses as great a natural talent for chess as any player he ever met with, without one single exception.
Mohishunder favored defenses, unusual in the West, that involved fianchettoing his bishops. The Indian Defenses, such as the King's Indian and Queen's Indian, are named for Mohishunder and his countrymen. Both involve advancing pawns one square, as in Indian chess, rather than more traditional defenses like 1.e4 e5 and 1.d4 d5. Sergeant wrote in 1934 (algebraic notation substituted for Sergeant's descriptive notation),
The Indian Defences by g6 coupled with d6, or b6 coupled with e6, were largely taught to European players by the example of Mohishunder and other Indians, to whom the fianchetto developments were a natural legacy from their own game.
Among other innovations, Mohishunder played the first known Gruenfeld Defense in Cochrane vs Mohishunder, 1855, 67 years before it was "introduced" in Alekhine vs Gruenfeld, 1922."
Cochrane was not the one to introduce the fianchetto. It was Mohishunder.
The "Nimzo" in the Nimzo-Indian refers to Nimzowitsch (a pioneer in hypermodern openings).
(I think you didn't SWIDT )
mohishunder is great
Heh, now i do, and how!
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