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17th April 2008, 05:48pm
#1
by Harry07
NSW Australia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 531

What do u think is the best opening for white and black?list ur results down here.

17th April 2008, 05:51pm
#2
by Harry07
NSW Australia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 531

For white i think 1.e4! and for black against e4 i play c5 and against d4 i play 1.d5 that is what i think is the best openings for both colours.


17th April 2008, 05:54pm
#3
by dcsedtaxi
OR United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 4
        For white Go with the Ruy Lopez. Its so simple yet so strong.
17th April 2008, 06:13pm
#4
by stain
Montreal Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 38
dcsedtaxi wrote:         For white Go with the Ruy Lopez. Its so simple yet so strong.

  A solid choice, I think. I used the Exchange variation a lot during my high school chess days.

Against the Sicilian, I usually followed the Rossolimo way back when. I'm just getting back into chess against after a long absence, so I need to brush up on it. 

Another good one that I am exploring right now is the King's Indian Attack (used at various points by Smyslov, Petrosian, and the early-60s model of Bobby Fischer). I've looked at the d4 Colle System for a bit, but I find the KIA is one "system" approach with some real tactical teeth to it, particularly re kingside chances.

I'm trying to build a repertoire of sorts, so I think having a "universal" or "system" opening for White and Black to fall back on as part of that is a good choice whenever some opening rotation is needed. For Black, I'm checking out the Modern Defence as one possibility.

  Russ 


17th April 2008, 10:48pm
#5
by Harry07
NSW Australia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 531
ok.these too are good.
17th April 2008, 11:06pm
#6
by Dragonknightx
Sydney Australia
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 391
its these two are good u mean. But there arent really the "best opening"
17th April 2008, 11:57pm
#7
by ElGuero
Columbus, Ohio, via San Juan Puerto Rico
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 364
For my tastes, the best opening for white is Queen's Gambit (hopefully transposing into Catalan if your opponent allows it).  The best defense against the Queen's Gambit is the Semi-Slav defense.  For black, the best opening is the Sicilian Najdorf (I'm also quite fond of the Dragon).  The best thing you can do as white against the Najdorf is hold onto the initiative and force your opponent's moves as much as possible.
18th April 2008, 12:01am
#8
by depthshaman
United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 256

what a bunch of rubbish. Some openings are more sound than others, but it isn't like there are any openings that are absolutely the "best." More obscure openings offer advantage by taking opponents into unfamiliar ground. More sound openings come with books of theory in contrast. I suggest you look into the user "Torkil" 's articles on openings. They're a great overview of the diverse responses to 1. e4 1. d4 and 1. c4


18th April 2008, 12:14am
#9
by pvmike
wilmington, nc United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 270
Theoretically, since there are a finite number of possible positions in chess, there is a "best" opening, but until quantum computers are invented there is no possible way of telling what that opening is.
18th April 2008, 12:44am
#10
by mandelshtam
Leipzig Germany
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 518

OBJECTIVELY, chess is a game which leads - with correct moves from both sides - to a draw. 

(This is of course not yet proven, but most GMs believe it. I think  computers will confirm such belief, with more and more precision, in future.)

Moreover, many openings which are out of fashion -  and considered as inferior - still should lead to a draw (and not loss of the game). Just because the range of drawish positions in chess is huge!!! For instance, you can be a pawn down, without any initiative for it, but it's still a draw.  (There are hundreds of examples in endgames ...)

From the objective point of view, many evaluations like "white has slight edge",

(or even "clear advantage", in some cases!) still can imply that the position is a draw...  

I personally find an evaluation in many opening books, like "unclear position" or "interesting is..." most embarrassing, and without much of a value.

So it's hard for me to say, which one is the strongest opening. Since your choice depends on your taste and your ability to handle  a particular position (even if it is seen by a few theoreticians as "inferior").

Therefore, I play several openings, both with black and with white, and my choice depends on the opponent and on my taste or my mood on that day.

Of course, if you need a full point with black, most of us prefer Sicilian , and play not Petrov, for instance...   

There are a few openings which I would never play, since I believe (I cannot prove ) that I loose, with correct play of my opponent.

An example is Albin's countergambit.

Mandelshtam 


18th April 2008, 12:53am
#11
by Dragonknightx
Sydney Australia
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 391
thanks for the info
18th April 2008, 02:06am
#12
by pvmike
wilmington, nc United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 270
Albin's Counter still sees play at the grandmaster level, it's playable.
18th April 2008, 02:23am
#13
by th3jamez
Reading England
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 56
depends what kind of player you are...  i tend to be very agressive so for black i play he sicilian dragon and for white i play 1.e4 if they play ...e5 i play the vienna if they play c5 i play ...Nc3 leading to a grand-prix attack
18th April 2008, 02:37am
#14
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1594
I dont believe there is a "best opening" as which openings are best for me may very well not be best for you, its an individual thing.
18th April 2008, 02:58am
#15
by Mau_Ocampo
Zambales Philippines
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 4
The best opening for White (as I used to play it) is the Queen's Pawn Opening (d4) which leads to many variations. For Black, it's d5 against d4 and c5 against e4.

18th April 2008, 03:54am
#16
by Harry07
NSW Australia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 531
So good openings!!
18th April 2008, 10:17am
#17
by olram30
wyoming United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 32
i need t refine my openings for black, they have been slow.. thanks for the input!
19th April 2008, 02:32am
#18
by mandelshtam
Leipzig Germany
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 518
pvmike wrote: Albin's Counter still sees play at the grandmaster level, it's playable.

my analysis and experience tells me, it is incorrect. If a GM plays it, he takes his opponent by surprise, he KNOWs, that it\s bad.

mandelshtam

p.s. lets play it, i promise you, you will not get a single draw! 


 

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