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what is the d5 and then e6 opening?


  • 24 months ago · Quote · #1

    Elite_Spartan

    it looks like a french opening but it also seems like queen pawn game. or even the slav

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #2

    Fear_ItseIf

    the queens gambit declined?


     

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #3

    waffllemaster

    Achilleskim1201 wrote:

    it looks like a french opening but it also seems like queen pawn game. or even the slav

    Depends on what white does.  The french, queen's gambit family, and caro family... yeah it's all the same basic (pawn) structure.  Black pawn on d5, breaks on e5 and c5.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #4

    Skeleize

    transposition to queen's gambit declined

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #5

    FirebrandX

    waffllemaster wrote:
    Achilleskim1201 wrote:

    it looks like a french opening but it also seems like queen pawn game. or even the slav

    Depends on what white does.  The french, queen's gambit family, and caro family... yeah it's all the same basic (pawn) structure.  Black pawn on d5, breaks on e5 and c5.

    Pretty much. If white follows 1.d4 e6 with 2.c4 and black plays 2...d5, then it's a Queen's Gambit Declined. If white follows up with 2.e4, then it becomes a French defense after 2...d5.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #6

    Elite_Spartan

    I think its similiar to the french if not the french defense, but he moves it in a different order.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #7

    Estragon

    He means 1 d4 d5 2 c4 e6, I think, which is the basic Queen's Gambit Declined.  Black has many options going forward, including the Tarrasch Defense, the Semi-Tarrasch, the Cambridge Springs, the Semi-Slav, the Orthodox, Lasker's Defense, and the Tartakower Defense - and others, depending on White's choices.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #8

    Elite_Spartan

    estragon thank you! You gave the best answer. Now what would the best attack be?

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #10

    FirebrandX

    Achilleskim1201 wrote:

    estragon thank you! You gave the best answer. Now what would the best attack be?

    His 'best answer' was the same thing the rest of us posted: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 or 1.d4 e6 2.c4 d5 are both the Queen's Gambit Declined.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #11

    waffllemaster

    And as far as attacking, we don't even know if he means from the white or black side yet heh.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #12

    AndyClifton

    FirebrandX wrote:
    Achilleskim1201 wrote:

    estragon thank you! You gave the best answer. Now what would the best attack be?

    His 'best answer' was the same thing the rest of us posted: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 or 1.d4 e6 2.c4 d5 are both the Queen's Gambit Declined.

    Hm, just what I was thinking... Laughing

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #13

    jclheriteau

    IM Pfren what would be the game fundamentals?

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #14

    Estragon

    AndyClifton wrote:
    FirebrandX wrote:
    Achilleskim1201 wrote:

    estragon thank you! You gave the best answer. Now what would the best attack be?

    His 'best answer' was the same thing the rest of us posted: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 or 1.d4 e6 2.c4 d5 are both the Queen's Gambit Declined.

    Hm, just what I was thinking... 

     

    Ya gotta have style, lads.   Wink

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #15

    Estragon

    jclheriteau wrote:

    IM Pfren what would be the game fundamentals?

    He means to forget worrying about opening lines and just learn the game.  The basic principles will get you through the opening for now. 

    Study tactics and learn the basic endgames first, openings later.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #16

    AndyClifton

    Once again you gave the best answer. Smile

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #17

    jclheriteau

    Estragon wrote:
    jclheriteau wrote:

    IM Pfren what would be the game fundamentals?

    He means to forget worrying about opening lines and just learn the game.  The basic principles will get you through the opening for now. 

    Study tactics and learn the basic endgames first, openings later.

    OK I will give try this as I have been plateauing (is this decent English??) for a while, despite a generally better opening... Thanks Estragon


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