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What is the most aggresive defence to 1.e4


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    stonesikich

    What is the most aggressive defence against 1.e4

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    Flamma_Aquila

    Most aggressive? I dunno, the Scandinavian? The Latvian Gambit? The Danish Gambit? Alekhine's defense?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    aansel

    1...f5

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    richie_and_oprah

    I think I would call 1. ...Nf6 the most ambitious and 1. ...c5 the most aggressive.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    stonesikich

    richie_and_oprah what do you mean by ambitous and what sicilian opening. I think it would be nadjorf.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    ih8sens

    Of the theoretically accepted lines in modern superGM play I would venture a guess that the Sicilian is both the most popular and the most 'agressive' ... the french defense (irritatingly enough) has it's strong points too though.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    richie_and_oprah

    Ambitious means trying to do the most and having the loftiest goals.  Attacking the loose e pawn on move 1 and trying to prove 1.e4 is an error because it leads to an unstable centre is rather ambitious, and hard to achieve/prove.

     

    I think the Najdorf is awesome, very solid, but I think the Dragon and some other lines may be more directly aggressive, but so much depends upon one's chess definiton of 'aggression.'

    To me, 'aggressive' means trying to force a win before one even equalizes as black, creating complications in that effort, regardless of theoretical status.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #8

    futuregm23

    richie_and_oprah wrote:

    To me, 'aggressive' means trying to force a win before one even equalizes as black, creating complications in that effort, regardless of theoretical status.


    If that's the case how about a gambit? 

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #9

    Flamma_Aquila

    ih8sens wrote:

    Of the theoretically accepted lines in modern superGM play I would venture a guess that the Sicilian is both the most popular and the most 'agressive' ... the french defense (irritatingly enough) has it's strong points too though.


    And that is one of its bonuses. People who don't play the French seem to find it really annoying to face.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #10

    futuregm23

    rookandladder wrote:
    ih8sens wrote:

    Of the theoretically accepted lines in modern superGM play I would venture a guess that the Sicilian is both the most popular and the most 'agressive' ... the french defense (irritatingly enough) has it's strong points too though.


    And that is one of its bonuses. People who don't play the French seem to find it really annoying to face.


    Yeah I HATE facing the french!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #11

    ih8sens

    rookandladder wrote:


     People who don't play the French seem to find it really annoying to face.


    The part I find 'annoying' is that in the philisophical world of chess theory, the mainline Winawer should be considered innacurate.  Black could not be considered correct to exchange his good bishop for white's knight, simultaneously leaving white with a minor space advantage and a relatively solid center (not to mention play on the kingside)... yet, I've never scored worse against any other defense...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #12

    Flamma_Aquila

    futuregm23 wrote:
    rookandladder wrote:
    ih8sens wrote:

    Of the theoretically accepted lines in modern superGM play I would venture a guess that the Sicilian is both the most popular and the most 'agressive' ... the french defense (irritatingly enough) has it's strong points too though.


    And that is one of its bonuses. People who don't play the French seem to find it really annoying to face.


    Yeah I HATE facing the french!


    I have friends that basically refuse to play if I play the French. I tell them they are free to either resign, or STFU and play. Tongue out

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #13

    richie_and_oprah

    Interesting, because the French is sort of under cloud at highest levels with the 3.Nc3 lines currently proving tough slogging for Black as the Winawer has been giving White good games lately, the Chatard attack is still raging and the Classical gives white a long lasting, although slight, advantage.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #14

    Flamma_Aquila

    richie_and_oprah wrote:

    Interesting, because the French is sort of under cloud at highest levels with the 3.Nc3 lines currently proving tough slogging for Black as the Winawer has been giving White good games lately, the Chatard attack is still raging and the Classical gives white a long lasting, although slight, advantage.


    Fortunately for me, I don't play at anywhere near the highest levels.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #15

    richie_and_oprah

    rookandladder wrote:
    richie_and_oprah wrote:

    Interesting, because the French is sort of under cloud at highest levels with the 3.Nc3 lines currently proving tough slogging for Black as the Winawer has been giving White good games lately, the Chatard attack is still raging and the Classical gives white a long lasting, although slight, advantage.


    Fortunately for me, I don't play at anywhere near the highest levels.


    Yes, but your opponents should emulate those lines against you.

     

    I would! Laughing

     

     

     

    I am guessing you see a lot of 'advanced' and 'exchange' variations?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #16

    Flamma_Aquila

    richie_and_oprah wrote:
    rookandladder wrote:
    richie_and_oprah wrote:

    Interesting, because the French is sort of under cloud at highest levels with the 3.Nc3 lines currently proving tough slogging for Black as the Winawer has been giving White good games lately, the Chatard attack is still raging and the Classical gives white a long lasting, although slight, advantage.


    Fortunately for me, I don't play at anywhere near the highest levels.


    Yes, but your opponents should emulate those lines against you.

     

    I would!

     

     

     

    I am guessing you see a lot of 'advanced' and 'exchange' variations?


    I'd say I get the Advance Variation about 80% of the time, the exchange about 3%, and the knights variation about 6%. I very rarely see the Tarrasch, the Charrard, the Alkehine's or the Winawer.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #17

    costelus

    Hmm, so many people hate French as White. Have you tried to play Winawer fingerslip? That is fun!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #18

    richie_and_oprah

    And as French player, these (Advanced & Exchange) are no worries!  Heck, the exchange is downright good for Black...easy eqaulity and active piece play and Black is usually the one that can deviate and play for the full point.

     

    I wonder why people are so scared of playing main lines?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #19

    AnthonyCG

    The Pirc(1...d6) and Modern(1...g6) are the most aggressive replies to 1.e4. They are theory intensive though.
  • 3 years ago · Quote · #20

    AnthonyCG

    richie_and_oprah wrote:

    And as French player, these (Advanced & Exchange) are no worries!  Heck, the exchange is downright good for Black...easy eqaulity and active piece play and Black is usually the one that can deviate and play for the full point.

     

    I wonder why people are so scared of playing main lines?


    Imo, most people just don't like it when Black controls almost as much space as White and they get flustered. That's why beginners will play the exchange because the c and d pawns look "aesthetically pleasing." The problem is that they know little about queen's pawn games so they don't realise that Black can easily equalise.

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