19032 Players currently online!
Man vs. Machine - good luck!
Turn-based games at any time!
Vote for the best move to win!
Do you have what it takes?
Sharpen your tactical vision!
Get advice and game insights!
Learn from top players & pros!
View millions of master games!
Your virtual chess coach!
Perfect your opening moves!
Test your skills vs. computer!
Find the right private coach!
Can you solve it each day?
Bring it all together!
Beginners, start here!
Make friends & play team games!
News from the world of chess!
Search all Chess.com members!
Find local clubs & events!
Who's the best of your friends?
Read what members are saying!
In the general forums several players said that black can respond to any white opening with the moves ...d6 ...c6 and ...Nf6. What opening system is this for black? Where can I learn more about it?
All the three at once is certainly a bad idea.
1...Nf6 leads to completely different games depending on White's first move - there is a group of Indian defenses after 1.d4/1.c4/1.Nf3 1...Nf6, where you have to navigate through the transpositions into various but similar systems, but 1.e4 Nf6 is the Alekhine defense which is totally different (usually it goes on 2.e5, but some years ago there was a fad of the 2.Bc4 Nxe5 3.Bxf7+ Kxf7 4.Qh5+ variant ; it can also transpose to quiet 1.e4 e5 lines with 2.Nc3 e5).
1...d6 followed usually by 2...Nf6, 3...g6 etc. is the Pirc/Modern. Playing ...c6 after that is not a good idea : you might want to play ...c7-c5 later instead, for instance.
1...c6 invites a Caro-Kahn after 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 or 1.d4 c6 2.e4 d5. However, White can choose a Slav after 1.d4 c6 2.c4 (refusing the 2.e4 transposition) where Black has not much better than 2...d5 anyways.
You can get some basic advice about openings in the forums here. As a premium member you probably have some videos too, and there are some comments in the game explorer opening moves if I remember correctly. If you want to go serious you need probably a book.
play logical moves and good tactics
Venturing ...d6...c6...Nf6 against anything is possible. I recall DeepBlue-Kasparov 1997, Game 4. If White puts up e4 d4 and c4 then you have a generic Indian defense. The Pribyl Defense is 1 e4 d6 2 d4 Nf6 3 Nc3 c6 with ideas of ...Qa5. Some folks with a sense of humor have experimented with computer programs on the following type of position where White is granted full development in the form of a fist:
In such positions, Black typically opts for ...d6 and ...c6 and the quirk of it all is, the computer programs often fail to win from the White side.
It depends. It is just an inferior way to respond to many White openings.
It is not really an opening system as the moves are bad if applied to ANY opening.
The system might transpose to a Pirc Defense if White opens 1.e4
However the "system" does not do so well against 1. c4 or 1. d4
thanks for the helpful thorough answer.
Venturing ...d6...c6...Nf6 against anything is possible.
Certainly, but it's not very good. (1...Nf6 2...Ng8 against anything is possible too)
Even when you manage more or less to transpose to ...e5 KID lines (which White should not allow), ...c7-c6 could have waited and White should with precise play be able to take advantage of it.
Now, of course it's playable up to a certain level. But as hard as I hate the Pirc, I must admit I let Black escape with an equal game most of the time, whereas no such thing happens when ...c6 is played. Maybe I met only weak players to play it though.
Against e4 you get a Czech defence. It's not bad and the only way White can get an advantage is by playing f4 against it. There are some nasty traps there.
Against 1.d4 you can try 1...d6 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e4 e5 and get an old Indian. It's a bit passive and masters will really squeeze you. Against everyone else it's probably fine.
WHY Do I Keep Making Retard Mistakes?????
by Dodger111 3 minutes ago
Daily Puzzle Submissions! *Be Involved*
by FreshDiamond 3 minutes ago
sexism in chess?
by Feufollet 6 minutes ago
Kings Gambit: Theory
by jetfighter13 6 minutes ago
by JamesRossAllison 7 minutes ago
Tell Us Why You Are a Premium Member
by Eugen 7 minutes ago
Equalizing against the 3..Bb5+ Sicilian
by Vortex_Surfer 12 minutes ago
11/27/2014 - Mate in 4
by herobrine5 14 minutes ago
by herobrine5 20 minutes ago
Problems with Tactics Trainer (unrated) settings
by Lawdoginator 21 minutes ago
Why Join | Chess Topics |
Help & Support |
© 2014 Chess.com
• Chess - English
We are working hard to make Chess.com available in over 70 languages. Check back over the year as we develop the technology to add more, and we will try our best to notify you when your language is ready for translating!