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skyler_kelly
I am in a chess tourney and i'm not sure what gambit to do Queens Gambit or Kings Gambit?
ponz111
Theory have evolved since Bobby Fischer made his statement and I know of no defense that defeats the Kings Gambit?
oldlady2010
SnowyHurricane
Queen gambit
shepi13
Queen's gambit is generally considered safer and more common, but the kings gambit is by no means refuted. Gavinator: stop being an idiot, and show one Fischer game where black wins. Fischer practically always won with the white side, and had some troubles on the black side. Learn some history, Fischer published that analysis after a tough loss as black vs the KG. No one really believes it refutes it.
(Except you )
And how is QG boring. There are many extremely interesting positional ideas behind it: the minority attack, the central majority, strong and weak pawn chains, attacking pawn chains at the base, etc. In addition white can chose a strong attacking approach, in some cases even castling queenside!
And that's just the exchange variation. What about the orthodox defense, cambridge springs, capablanca freeing manuver, QGD tarkatower variation, etc.
And that's just the mainline QGD, what about slav, semi-slav, meran, botvinnik, anti-moscow gambit, moscow, tarrasch defense, etc.
And that's still not including the accepted variation: IQP positions, weak vs strong center, active pieces, etc. are extremely important in this kind of play.
And then there are different white approaches after d4 d5 c4 e6, for example the catalan, b3 variations, etc.
You obviously don't understand chess if you call an opening with this rich of a history and these variations ranging from some of the most tactical in chess to some of the most amazing positional ideas in chess "boring".
Please stop telling these people, who obviously just want help improving their chess, your stupid ideas. You aren't helping anyone.
Metaknight251
umm.... Gavin? If you think the KG is refuted by the fischer defense then play the bishop's gambit. And how can you say the QG is not fun and attacking? Have you ever played the botvinnik variation?
nyLsel
Play the Mozio-Gambit
IM pfren
Gavi, it certainly isn't fair to post your nonsense all the time just because stupidity is not contageous.
KG is an instant loss for white, QG is ok but boring.
QG is hard to win but has a solid defense for White, is that the reason why you say it's boring?
chessmaster102
kg of course you wont get a real gambit fun game from qg
You should really team up with Gavinator- your mentality is very similar.
John_Doe18
The queens gambit and the catalan gambit are the most sound gambits in chess.
There are other gambits, but they must be used only as surprise weapon or in blitz/bullet games and should not be adapted in regular play
Chumpchess
I like the ghetto-gambit
Except for the fact you lose with the KG, you got about half of that right though.
But you both have an opinion about everything, despite the obvious fact that you don't know shit.
UltraLaser
Both gambits can give good, interesting games, and both are worth a try - in my opinion the Queen's Gambit leads to a safer opening/early middlegame. The King's Gambit is very sharp, and I guess the one that you should play depends on your style.
DaBigOne
Fischer believes the KG is busted, since he is probably one of the best 3 players in the world, I'd believe him. The QG is about as drawish as the Ruy Lopez, maybe even more.
The KG isn't busted, why don't u show one line that shows its busted. Fischer was a chess legend, but I dont think he would stand well against our tough new generation, Carlsen, Nakamura, Karjarkin, etc. (IMO)
And what variation do u play of QG? Some ARE drawish, but others are the most cutthroat variations in the history of chess.
Yeah? Than how come Fischer used the KG himself? 19 times, with a record of 73.7%% wins, and the rest draws/losses.
And fischers record with the d6 line wasn't as good as the record with him using kg
LazyChessPlayer3201
It depends what type of a game a player is looking for. The Queen's Gambit is a solid opening, that to me doesn't seem like a gambit, because white will either retain his pawn, or crush black with his center. "The_Gavinator" even if the king'
s gambit is refuted, we are not Grand Masters. I don't think I could prove why the King's gambit is refuted, neither could most chess players on this site.
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