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What's wrong with 1.b4?


  • 18 months ago · Quote · #641

    SmyslovFan

    Anatoly Lein is a GM. No clue who Anatoly Levin is.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #642

    netzach

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #643

    SmyslovFan

    Yeah. I should know every player in the US.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #644

    schlechter55

    well, a 2028 rating player will from time to time make moves like 8.g3 in a blitz game, but still very rarely in a long game.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #645

    SmyslovFan

    [Comment eradicated]

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #646

    kco

    don't come to my homepage with your problems schlechter55, when using analysis don't use the computer so much, better off using your brain abit, like pfren does most time.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #647

    AndyClifton

    That guy is leaving his graffiti everywhere!

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #648

    kco

    AndyClifton wrote:

    That guy is leaving his graffiti everywhere!

    you as well ?

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #649

    schlechter55

    The analysis I give here have human explanations, and besides, they are often longer than those given by others. They were never suggested by computer, but by literature - I have a good library - , and thus, by human practice, OTB or correspondance experience, few times by my own analysis.

    Like in the variant

    1.b4 e5, 2.Bb2 d6.

    I proposed that Black can successfully play a King's Indian attack (with reversed colours), that is, a setup with Nf6, g6, Bg7, Nbd7, 0-0, Re8, and then later e5-e4.

    The reason is as follows:

    In the original King's Indian attack,

    1.Nf3 d5, 2.g3 c5, 3.Bg2 Nc6, 4.0-0 Nf6, 5.d3 e6, 6.Nbd2 Be7, 7.e4 0-0, 8.e5 Nfd7, 9.Re1 b5  a move like Bb7 is counterproductive: the bishop can hardly show activity on that diagonal. Moroever, if later files will be opened on the queenside, the bishop is in the way of a black rook on b8. A long mastergame practice has shown that the correct plan for black is connected with a5, b4, a4, to open files, and/or to weaken the white pawn formation, in order to get strongholds for his pieces on the queenside. The Bc8 often goes to a6, where he can also support a timely c5-c4.

    That's why in the event of

    1.b4 e5, 2.Bb2 d6, 3.c4 Nf6, 4.e3 g6, 5.Nf3 Bg7, 6.Be2 0-0, 7.0-0 Nbd7, 8.Nc3 Re8, 9.d4 e4, 10.Nd2, the Bishop on b2 is not helping the white attack on the queenside...

    Note that Black plays Nbd7, and avoids in that variant as long as possible any contact with the white pawns on the queenside.

    Of course, White has other options, too, he is not forced to play as above. For instance, he can carry out a fianchetto g3, Bg2, or he can opt for long castling. In the later case it is however not clear why he pushed the pawn to b4 (and not humbly to b3 only).

    Anyway, the above black piece setup can be handled similarly in all situations.

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    Because of Fischer's affinity to the King's Indian attack with White pieces, he would have played such a setup probably himself with Black, when persistently challenged with 1.b4.

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    I can assure you, KCO, that I have no board/diagram in front of me, I give these variants from my memory.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #650

    AndyClifton

    schlechter55 wrote:

    I can assure you, KCO, that I have no board/diagram in front of me, I give these variants from my memory.

    A remarkable achievement!

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #651

    AndyClifton

    kco wrote:
    AndyClifton wrote:

    That guy is leaving his graffiti everywhere!

    you as well ?

    Not yet...but I suppose there's always the possibility... Frown

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #652

    Doggy_Style

    AndyClifton wrote:
    kco wrote:
    AndyClifton wrote:

    That guy is leaving his graffiti everywhere!

    you as well ?

    Not yet...I'm feeling a little left out.

    Plenty to go round, Slick.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #653

    AndyClifton

    Doggy_Style wrote:
    AndyClifton wrote:
    Not yet...I'm feeling a little left out.

    Time for me to go walkies, Slick.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #654

    netzach

    schlechter55 wrote:

    Because of Fischer's affinity to the King's Indian attack with White pieces, he would have played such a setup probably himself with Black, when persistently challenged with 1.b4.

     

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #655

    FirebrandX

    SmyslovFan wrote:

    If 1.b4 is refuted by 1...e5, why didn't anyone tell the hundred of GMs who have played something other than 1...e5 against strong opponents?

    It doesn't refute b4, however, the "orang colorado gambit" is refutable. I'd be quite happy if someone tried that against me on ICCF. It would be a free win in that arena.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #656

    DarthMusashi

    Tetsuoshima wrote:

    thats weird, i just recently read an article about the history of the Blackmar Diemer Gambit, i think it was in the 1930s were a chess journalist (hated by everyone because he would work for very little money) propagated the Blackmar Diemer Gambit and all leading players considered it bad. I really believe in the knowledge and the competence of Yermolinski, but its still hard to believe that despite such a long line of top players considering  it bad its good. Im not 100 % sure but i believe even now many titled players consider the Blackmar bad.

    Actually there are web pages devoted to the Blackmar Diemer Gambit 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3. One such page is called BDG Pages run by Tom Purser, my friend. I am
    still in contact with Tom Purser. The moves 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3,f3 was orginally
    called the Blackmar Gambit. It was not til Emil Diemer added the move 1.d4 d5 2.e4
    dxe4 3.Nc3 that it was called the Blackmar Diemer Gambit. The late Emil Diemer
    also played the Diemer Duhm Gambit 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.c4 and there is also a
    web page devoted to the Diemer Duhm Gambit. This gambit can also be played against
    the Caro Kann Defense with the moves 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.c4. I play both Diemer Duhm
    Variations. For some strange reason whatever gambit can be played against the French
    Defense can also be played against the Caro Kann Defense. The chess engine called Brause played large number of games with the Diemer Duhm Gambit. If anyone
    thinks that the Diemer Duhm Gambit is unsound then they should take on Brause
    in some games. I would not bet against Brause. 

    Eric Schiller changed his opinon on the Blackamr Diemer Gambit and now favors it as
    a playable chess opening. Many correspondence games have been played with the Blackmar Diemer Gambit and many books have been written on the BDG. I also wrote on a article called Base Chess Openings (Chessville) which basically said that if you learn a certain opening then it would be easy to learn several other openings because they are similar in concept.  In that article I said that the Blackmar Diemer Gambit was an example of a Base Chess Opening.  If you learned the BDG then you should also be able to play other openings such as:

    Diemer Duhm Gambit 1.e4 d6 2.d4 d5 3.c4
    Diemer Duhm Gambit (Caro Kann Var) 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3,c4
    Soller Gambit 1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 f6 (an article was written on this opening by
    Timothy McGrew of Gambit Cartel at Chess Cafe. He is also my friend
    however he is no longer a columnist at Chess Cafe. The article
    is #33 in the archives at Chess Cafe.  

    In that article I also said that the Omega Gambit 1.d4 Nf6 2.e4
    was also a Base Chess Opening and also that the Franco Polish
    1,e4 e6 2.d4 b5 was a Base Chess Opening for the Hiva Gambits.
    There was a German book written on the Franco Polish Gambit
    by master Rainer Schlenker of Germany. I used to submit chess
    articles to Rand Springer which was a German Theoretical Opening
    Publication which was published by Rainer Schlenker. His magazine
    had many interesting opening ideas not found anywhere else. 

    Best Regards
    DarthMusashi 

     


  • 18 months ago · Quote · #657

    Fear_ItseIf

    IMO the problem with the BDG is not that it's bad. I think that it gives white no advantage but has dynamic equality.


    The main problem in my opinion is that for white to have compensation for the pawn he must play very accurate and often unnatural moves to furthur his attacks. This means that it is essential for the white player to learn the theory of a multitude of variations. On the other hand blacks plans are quite straightfoward and doesnt require memorisation of a labyrinth of variations.


    This is why it is played in CC so often, as players are allowed to use databases and books, which means they can get = and set black many problems. Also why it has quite poor success OTB.

    I love the BDG, and have played it much here in CC, with a win percentage of >80%. However, despite this success, which I do not share with my other openings, I would never play it OTB as I simply cant memorise the lines, and no doubt would simply end up a pawn down with zero compensation.


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