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Both the semi-slav and slav are played against the queen's gambit declined lines, but which one is better. They both got their pros and cons. The semi-slav is a solid opening, but it blocks the bishop in, so it will not be able to come out for a while. On the other hand the slav opts to let out the bishop though it often becomes a target. So which is better, I think the semi-slav
The Slav is easier to play, but the semi-slav gives black more counter-play.
which do you reccomend
You may want to re-think the 2...e6 move order for the semi-slav unless you are happy also playing the QGD exchange or are looking for a Noteboom. The QGD exchange is immensely popular (also, scoring well for whtie) and you can expect to see 4. cxd5 more freuqently at club level then 4. Nf3.
pellik your pretty much saying that if you know how to play the semi-slav well it is much better
sorry those were just some main lines
They are both useful to know. Learning the Slav well enough for club level play should only take a few hours. So I'd recommend learning the Semi-Slav (focus on the Meran), but playing Cambridge Springs after Bg5. Every now and then play a Slav to keep your opponents on their toes.
I love the meran it is the one I'm studying and I'm told is great at high level play
any other tips
I love the Meran, too! I'm usually afraid to play it, though. I don't play it enough, so I don't know it as well as I'd like. I do play it against lower rated players, however, where my Slav is sometimes too drawish.
Here's some games to review.
I like 5.e3 a6 in the Semi-Slav. If your opponent doesn't know what they are doing, it's easy for Black to leave the opening with an advantage (the idea is to take on c4, play b5, and play Nc6, which is impossible after the usual Nbd7). The correct moves for White are generally considered to be 6.b3 and 6.c5. If you learn the replies to all of the wrong moves, and why they work, this is a useful weapon. I have very good results in this line.
The Cambridge Springs defense (5.Bg5 Nbd7 6.e3 Qa5 in the Semi-Slav, technically a line of the Queen's Gambit Declined that originally used to arise by the 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Nbd7 move-order with 5.Nf3 c6 6.e3 Qa5) is a good weapon, also 5...h6 is what I play. 5...dxc4 is very risky and well-analyzed; I wouldn't recommend it to anyone below master level.
Overall my vote goes to the Semi-Slav. I don't think it really requires as much theory knowledge as the Slav, having played both at 1500-1900 club level before advancing to the 2000+ stage, but what do I know.
From a technical standpoint, the Semi-Slav is stronger. That is to say, it fairs better in human-computer hybrid CC games than the straight Slav does. One of my wins on ICCF was against a fellow that felt he could play his pet 4...a6 Slav there. It did not go well for his computer:
nice games I'm playing one right now here is a link http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=57802390 if you want discuss it go ahead but don't give hints on future moves because at the moment it isn't finished and I don't want to be accused of cheating
Ahh, I remember the famous Topalov-Kramnik 2006 World Championship, where they played queen's gambit declined lines. Please look at those games it should be helpful.
Here's a link for my famous one: http://www.chess.com/games/view?id=1372429
I thought it would be nice to display the game
The botvinnik semi slav is the best
The botvinnik and anti-moscow are for computers. Besides, except for catching a patzer every now and again your opponent will only play it if they have 25 moves of theory memorized as well.
I'm well booked up for the meran also which is the most common in my experience.
You can play this way the blocked bishop will be in a fianchetto later a6 than the bishop comes to the b7 square
or this is wrong ?
you're right and then your going into the meran
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