why knights before bishops?

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27th September 2007, 02:33am
#1
by stalkingwolf
Phoenix United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
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One of the general opening rules is Knights before Bishops... We've all heard it... But I'm not too sure of its reasoning. Anyone care to enlighten me on this guideline?!

27th September 2007, 03:19am
#2
by HotFlow
KL, Malaysia Malaysia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 529

I think it is down to piece value, Knights are seen as better in the opening and  middle game it's believed that they contribute more to the position when things are tight. Bishops are seen as better in the endgame when the material reduces down and there is more space. 


27th September 2007, 03:47am
#3
by littleman
Taree Australia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1107
Well i believe its to do with controling the center knights can control more sqaures sooner and dont have to wait for the pawn structure to be right to be effective. Wheres the biships do in the intitual phase of the game.....
27th September 2007, 03:51am
#4
by rokadus
at the chessboard Belgium
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 59

I understood that it is because it is easier to decide where to place your knights ...

 


27th September 2007, 03:56am
#5
by Sprite
Washington, D.C. area United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 406
Yeah, it's basically that knights are easy to place.  Their best squares are Nc3/Nc6 and Nf3/Nf6 (with some exceptions depending on the opening)  Here they exert force on the center. Bishops are developed a little later because they are not as easy as knights to place.
27th September 2007, 04:42am
#6
by BlueKnightShade
Denmark
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 183
It could also be because the knights need more moves in order to reach the other end of the board as well as the center, while bishops can control both the center and the other end from the edge of the board. So the knights are less active in the start position compared with the bishops. Therefore get them out fast.

2nd October 2007, 01:44pm
#7
by Lord-Svenstikov
Worcester United Kingdom
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 668
Furthermore, bishops can be chased around the board if brought out too early and too far. Knights are limited to rank 3 (rank 6 for black) at most near the start, so they are not chased around.
2nd October 2007, 05:32pm
#8
by ivandh
GA United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 298
Moving the bishops means moving pawns. Knights don't require so much commitment to a certain pawn structure.
2nd October 2007, 05:38pm
#9
by batgirl
NC United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 3169

Bishops have more money, so the poor Knights have to go directly to the Front.


2nd October 2007, 05:51pm
#10
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
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BlueKnightShade wrote: It could also be because the knights need more moves in order to reach the other end of the board as well as the center, while bishops can control both the center and the other end from the edge of the board. So the knights are less active in the start position compared with the bishops. Therefore get them out fast.

Exactly!


2nd October 2007, 05:59pm
#11
by batgirl
NC United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 3169

1. A Knight can move without first moving pawns.

2. Knight moves are ambiguous since they have only certain squares that make sense and such moves a general with most openings. A Bishop's landing square telegraph's the player's intentions. So, moving Knight's first is a way of not showing your cards too soon.

3. By the same token, often the Bishop's best square can be better determined once the other player has committed himself to some plan. Generally, with the Knight's the choice of squares is limited anyway.


2nd October 2007, 06:07pm
#12
by kingamrk55
Colorado United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2
the general rule to follow is, knight are better on a closed board while bishops are better on an open board!.....in any case i prefer bishops, but the value of each fluctuates
 

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