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Worst chess opening

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26th March 2008, 12:45pm
#1
by amrou
cairo Egypt
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 40

What is the worst chess opening u have ever played? black or white?

26th March 2008, 12:55pm
#2
by DaPharaoh
Gaithersburg, MD United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 132
the worst is probably 1. f3 because it doesnt contribute anything to development, blocks the g1 knight and weakens the kingside
26th March 2008, 12:57pm
#3
by Fotoman
Philippines
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 583

As far as any major opening? I think style clashes between players and openings sometimes. Further, I would think that sometimes not understanding the objectives of an opening would cause problems.

Personally, I have tried most of the major openings, in an effort to learn. That helped me find ones that I have enjoyed playing. As I like razor sharp games with tactics galore I like the Sicilian and the Benoni/Benko Gambit arrangements.


26th March 2008, 01:54pm
#4
by AnthonyCG
Washington DC United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 446
The worst opening is the one where you knock over your king on the first move. That's a hard one to win with.Laughing
26th March 2008, 02:35pm
#5
by Chinunt
Somewhere polluted United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 93
The fool's mate as white. Scholar's Mate as black.
26th March 2008, 02:52pm
#6
by Nimzo33
Honolulu United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 207
DaPharaoh wrote: the worst is probably 1. f3 because it doesnt contribute anything to development, blocks the g1 knight and weakens the kingside

  However, it does give the options of transposing into a reverse dutch (1.f3 d5 2. f4!) or a reverse latvian gambit (1.f3 e5 2. e4 Nf6 3. f4!) Its not all that bad once your think about it.

In my opinion, the worst openings are those which try for a "trap" (with the most known being probably the Scholar's mate.)  It gives players who rely on them a false sense of achievement when they take the heads of much weaker players, but then causes them to play like babies once a stronger player comes up and stops the "trap".

  Now, of course I am not speaking objectively, and flame me if your want, but I was simply stating my opinion. For a single move I choose either 1.a4 or 1.h4 because they only cause weakness in your own camp with no chance to fix itself.

 


26th March 2008, 03:00pm
#7
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 753
The Bongcloud is the most awesome but the worst.
26th March 2008, 03:01pm
#8
by amrou
cairo Egypt
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 40
Well done!! Nimzo33
26th March 2008, 03:05pm
#9
by KillaBeez
Denver, CO United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 753
I once knew a 1200 player that played a4 and h4 in tournaments because he thought he would be beaten by normal openings. 
26th March 2008, 06:42pm
#10
by MikedaSnipe
Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 589

Worst I've ever tried was Desprez (1. h4) when i was 8 =P

Although i have heard of 1 high rated player that adores it. 


26th March 2008, 07:00pm
#11
by jim77742
Australia
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 47
In the semi-final of a state inter-college chess championship (many years ago) my opponent opened with f3. I did e5. He moved a few other pieces on the other side of the board and then later on did g4. I couldn't believe my eyes! I had to triple check I wasn't falling into a subtle trap but my Qh4 mate after about 6 moves left him stunned and speechless. I will never forget it. And yes I got to the final and yes I won. :-)
26th March 2008, 07:04pm
#12
by Graw81
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 809
DaPharaoh wrote: the worst is probably 1. f3 because it doesnt contribute anything to development, blocks the g1 knight and weakens the kingside

 Its not all bad. The king might wish to take residence om f2 or even g3! If hes really ambitious he might head for d8 but i think we should leave that to Lenny!


26th March 2008, 07:48pm
#13
by Escapest_Pawn
MISSOULA,MT United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 339

If we are talking about the worst single 1st move, I would say the grob. g4.  I truly believe with correct play, black already has a won game.  There are complications black must be aware of, but once he has a formula down, he can start giggling.  There was an earlier thread on the fried fox which starts f3, and then 2)kf2.  A proponent claimed he could beat anyone unaware of its tricks and implied there was only one winning formula. I googled it (also called the Hamerstern, Hamsberg or some such) and found several winning (for black) formulas.  Someone on another site claimed Morphy lost a game to an unknown who played it.  I looked up the game, and it was a half truth.  The winner was a famous player in a national match which Morphy won 7 out of 11 games (I think) and the other fella did indeed play f3, but did not follow it up with Kf2.

 

I am USCF rated 1770 and have won all my games against g4, however, there is a local 1450 or so guy who has played it twice against me, and both times, he has made me think.  It helps to take everything seriously.


2nd April 2008, 07:21pm
#14
by Nimzo33
Honolulu United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 207

<Escapest Pawn: If we are talking about the worst single 1st move, I would say the grob. g4.  I truly believe with correct play, black already has a won game.>

how would you compare it to 1. a4? Something like... "It gain crucial control for the important b5 square!! Using INSANE prophylaxis to prevent black's queenside counterplay and assures white that black can only fight for the change of not embarrasing himself! 1.g4 just loses..."

1.g4 is not "that" bad, it actually has a plan involved with it. Some other openings(1. h4 1. a4) are just created to be jokes, and to me, thats worse. Grob can show some decent results, and its takes some preparation to actually take advantage of it. Though, while I will agree that the grob isn't ideal for tournament play, I do believe its a fine opening for blitz, and, because of that, it can't possibly be the worst opening.


3rd April 2008, 02:38pm
#15
by Escapest_Pawn
MISSOULA,MT United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 339

Nimzo,

Valid point.  In terms of actual complete openings, beyond the first move, the bongcloud must get some sort of prize.  Iceman13 started a forum about it called "A game of David and Goliath" where I stupidly attempted to make a point.

The grob does indeed have agressive thought behind it.  The king's bishop easily gets to g2, and g5 threatens to kick black's f6 knight.  Further, when combined with a somewhat English looking queenside, c4, Qb3, (now called the spike, I believe spike and grob were used interchangably back in the 70s) white can put great pressure on d5, and black's queenside.  However, (and I don't want to seem argumentative or defensive), nothing weakens white's kingside more than g4, where a4 (or h4) only do so about half as much, and their weaknesses show up generally later in the game.  They are (to me) more wasted moves, at least during early development and mid-game fencing, than losing moves. Although you are completely right, they are weakening, and greatly so if white "attacks" with f4 after a4.  They actually hinder mid-game attacking or center strengthening formulas.

 

 


3rd April 2008, 05:17pm
#16
by Darthstapler8
United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 121
I fell for a mate - in - 6 trap once, does that count?
3rd April 2008, 05:42pm
#17
by Alander97
Edmond, Oklahoma United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 164
C4 is ridiculous
4th April 2008, 06:49am
#18
by Escapest_Pawn
MISSOULA,MT United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 339
Alander97 wrote: C4 is ridiculous

C4 is the English, Sicilian in reverse, sound and sensible.


4th April 2008, 09:40pm
#19
by Chiaro2di2luna
Pennsylvania United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 121

I think a3 is the worst.


 

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