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30th May 2009, 04:57pm
#1
by FredFredburger123
lake charles United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 242

People out there what are your openings just to be curious

 

against 1. e4

against 1. d4

first move for you

against 1.Nf3

against 1. c4

30th May 2009, 05:05pm
#2
by FredFredburger123
lake charles United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 242

sicilian nadjorf

KID

1. e4

1. d5

1. Nf6

thats mine pretty simple

30th May 2009, 05:20pm
#3
by BigTy
B.C Canada
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 414

Against 1.e4, sicilian najdorf, I am gradually switching over to 1...e5 though.

Against 1.d4, modern benoni, nimzo indian, might give the benko and blumenfeld gambits a run.

As white, 1.e4.

Against 1.Nf3 and 1.c4, 1...c5 with transpositions either to sicilian or symmetrical english.

30th May 2009, 05:22pm
#4
by benedictus
Buenos Aires Argentina
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 803

Here are mine with reasons:

against 1. e4: 1... b6 (Owen's Defense). Lots of people criticize this, but I think it gives black a decent position. Also, it provides an advantage because since there aren't many books on it, it's hard to find a good attack against it.

against 1. d4: 1... Nf6 and later going into a benoni. I think this is the best way for black to have a good position against 1. d4.

first move for me: 1. d4. If 1... d5, white usually gets a clear positional advantage. If 1... Nf6, I can attack black's kingside with everything I have. My second move is always (unless black does something really weird) c4.

against 1.Nf3: To tell you the truth, I have never encountered this, but I guess I would play 1... d5.

against 1. c4 I usually play 1. c5, but this is an opening that I'm not comfortable with as I haven't studied it much yet. Probably because not many people use it.

30th May 2009, 05:33pm
#5
by richie_and_oprah
Marie Byrd Land United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1861

1. e4 e5!

1. d4 Nf6

1. c4 e5!

1. Nf3 d5!

1. b4 e5!

1. Nc3 Nf6

30th May 2009, 05:39pm
#6
by benedictus
Buenos Aires Argentina
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 803

Richie could you please show me a continuation for 1. c4 e5 I need help with that opening.

30th May 2009, 05:50pm
#7
by richie_and_oprah
Marie Byrd Land United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1861
benedictus wrote:

Richie could you please show me a continuation for 1. c4 e5 I need help with that opening.


Here is a very sneaky and off-beat but solid system against the English.

1. c4 e5  (slow down White from playing d4)

2. Nc3 d6!

3. g3 Be6

4. Bg2 Nc6 (...Bxc4?? 5. Bxb7!)

5. d3 Qd7!

Now Black will manuever to trade of the fianchettoed Bishop by playing Bh3! after White plays Nf3 and 0-0.  This eleviates all White's pressure on the White squares on the long diagonal.

Specific questions about specific move orders and variations I can try to address, but the basic themes are easy to understand:

~ Do not play c6, instead Nc6 to get active pieces.

~ Nd5 and threats against c7 are met by keeping Q on d7

~ Sometimes Black will play h6 (to prevent Ng5) and then castle long (0-0-0) to push pawns and create Kindside attacking chances.

~ Sometimes Black will instead play Nge7/g6/Bg7 and aim to get in f5! like a King's Indian.

~ A critcal theme is the Battery of Be6/Qd7 to control the light squares with pieces while your pawns control the central dark squares.

 

The English is a light suqare system  so we respond by getting our Queen onto that color complex early in the battle.  This changes the strategic settings and if White just plays "regular" English moves, Black can soone find themselves with the superior postion and winning chances.

One Important Note:  Black is playing to EQUALIZE first in this line, not counter attack.  The counter attack comes after White botches up strategically.  Elsewise, the worst is that Black is solid and playing for the draw as this pawn structure is bullet proof if you keep the pawns moves to minimum and instead seek active piece manuevers.

Is my opinion.

30th May 2009, 05:53pm
#8
by richie_and_oprah
Marie Byrd Land United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1861

One of my better games using this system here on Chess.com because  my opponent played very well and the game was very tough with no whopping  blunders, mainly strategic ones and positional inaccuracies (from both sides Cool).

http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=5445432#

30th May 2009, 06:02pm
#9
by richie_and_oprah
Marie Byrd Land United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1861

Also, if you are an Owen's afficiando, you can punt 1.c4 b6!? and probably get some positions that would suit you, I think.

I am not an expert on this line by any means, but I think the critical line goes 1.c4 b6!? 2. d4 Bb7 3. d5 e6 4. a3 Nf6 5. Nc3 and Black has a typical Owen's fighting type of game.

30th May 2009, 06:08pm
#10
by erikido23
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1670
richie_and_oprah wrote:
benedictus wrote:

Richie could you please show me a continuation for 1. c4 e5 I need help with that opening.


Here is a very sneaky and off-beat but solid system against the English.

1. c4 e5  (slow down White from playing d4)

2. Nc3 d6!

3. g3 Be6

4. Bg2 Nc6 (...Bxc4?? 5. Bxb7!)

5. d3 Qd7!

Now Black will manuever to trade of the fianchettoed Bishop by playing Bh3! after White plays Nf3 and 0-0.  This eleviates all White's pressure on the White squares on the long diagonal.

Specific questions about specific move orders and variations I can try to address, but the basic themes are easy to understand:

~ Do not play c6, instead Nc6 to get active pieces.

~ Nd5 and threats against c7 are met by keeping Q on d7

~ Sometimes Black will play h6 (to prevent Ng5) and then castle long (0-0-0) to push pawns and create Kindside attacking chances.

~ Sometimes Black will instead play Nge7/g6/Bg7 and aim to get in f5! like a King's Indian.

~ A critcal theme is the Battery of Be6/Qd7 to control the light squares with pieces while your pawns control the central dark squares.

 

The English is a light suqare system  so we respond by getting our Queen onto that color complex early in the battle.  This changes the strategic settings and if White just plays "regular" English moves, Black can soone find themselves with the superior postion and winning chances.

One Important Note:  Black is playing to EQUALIZE first in this line, not counter attack.  The counter attack comes after White botches up strategically.  Elsewise, the worst is that Black is solid and playing for the draw as this pawn structure is bullet proof if you keep the pawns moves to minimum and instead seek active piece manuevers.

Is my opinion.


 although I don't know all the theory on it.  I do like the 2...b-b4 line in the kings english. 

30th May 2009, 06:23pm
#11
by richie_and_oprah
Marie Byrd Land United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1861
erikido23 wrote:

 although I don't know all the theory on it.  I do like the 2...b-b4 line in the kings english. 


That's a great line, I agree.  But I think it is more nuanced with White having so many viable choices right out of the gate and I don't know enough about it to recommend it, but I know theoretically it is very sound.  Unfortunately the only times I've tried it I made some critical mistakes and got pummeled so I'm back to my ole bread and butter with this d6 system.  Smile

For anyone interested in deeper looks, John Watson has some great stuff on these systems in Vol III of his Matering the Chess Openings series.

30th May 2009, 06:33pm
#12
by erikido23
United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 1670
richie_and_oprah wrote:
erikido23 wrote:

 although I don't know all the theory on it.  I do like the 2...b-b4 line in the kings english. 


That's a great line, I agree.  But I think it is more nuanced with White having so many viable choices right out of the gate and I don't know enough about it to recommend it, but I know theoretically it is very sound.  Unfortunately the only times I've tried it I made some critical mistakes and got pummeled so I'm back to my ole bread and butter with this d6 system. 

For anyone interested in deeper looks, John Watson has some great stuff on these systems in Vol III of his Matering the Chess Openings series.


 That happens to me almost any time I try an opening I don't know any theory on. 

 

But, the fact that white has many different options is one of my favorite things about it.  You get a lot of different and very interesting and unbalanced games

30th May 2009, 06:45pm
#13
by RyanMK
Iowa United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 2277
FredFredburger123 wrote:

People out there what are your openings just to be curious

 

against 1. e4

against 1. d4

first move for you

against 1.Nf3

against 1. c4


 e5

Nf6 (usually Nimzo/Queen's Indian/Benoni)

e4

c5

g6

30th May 2009, 07:02pm
#14
by ericmittens
London, ON Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2253

Generally I open with c4, and transpose to the kind of queen's pawn openings I like.

vs. e4 I like the french, but dabble in the Taimanov Sicilian to avoid certain dull lines. (1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 often turns into a very dull exchange line as 2.Nf3 in the french is a pretty good indication that white knows no theory at all. So to fix this I play 2...c5 and get myself a nice paulsen setup.)

vs. d4 traditionally I've played the benko gambit but I'm starting to learn the semi-slav in an attempt to be more solid.

vs. c4 I like the symmetrical since I'm a c4 player myself and the positions are often mirrored.

vs. f4, b3, g3, b4, g4...etc I play pretty mainline stuff.

Oh, and vs. Nf3 I like 1...c5 because 2.c4 leads to a symmetrical english and if 2.e4 I get a sicilian, all of the non-mainline KIA/reti systems are pretty lame and are pretty easy to equalize against so any old universal black system ( i like the botvinnik vs this stuff) is fine for black.

30th May 2009, 07:16pm
#15
by ShizAym
California United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 65

1.Nf3, aiming for a NImzo-Larsen Attack or 1.e4 looking for a King's Gambit or Open Sicilian.

 

Sicilian against 1.e4 and King's Indian Defense against 1.d4

30th May 2009, 07:25pm
#16
by savis99
Victoria Australia
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 32

against 1. e4 g6

against 1. d4 g6

first move 1. b4

against 1. Nf3 g6

against 1. c4 g6

30th May 2009, 07:42pm
#17
by KillaBeez
Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 4250

Against e4: The French Defense

Against d4: KID or sometimes the Benoni

I play e4.

Against Nf3: Nf6 which isn't very commital

Against c4: e5 and hope to get into a reversed closed Sicilian

30th May 2009, 07:54pm
#18
by FredFredburger123
lake charles United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 242

I forgot 1. Nc3 e5

31st May 2009, 06:28am
#19
by FredFredburger123
lake charles United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 242

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31st May 2009, 06:37am
#20
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5828

Against 1. e4, 1... d6, setting up the Pirc Defence.

Against 1. d4, 1... Nf6, for the King's Indian Defence. (Which, incidentally, can easily transpose to the Pirc Defence.)

As white, sometimes 1. f4, sometimes 1. Nf3. Depends what sort of mood I'm in.

Against 1. Nf3, 1... Nf6. Easily the best defense.

Against 1. c4, 1... Nf6 AGAIN. Hopefully transposing into the King's Indian Defence. So, I use the same opening system against all of white's attacks.

This is OTB tournament play, by the way. I try out all sorts online.

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