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Sure...Mozart, son of Leopold Mozart the composer and music teacher (whose violin textbook is still used today) who fanatically trained his small children in music.
Most great soccer players, like Maradona, come from impoverished areas. Might have something to do with the fact that they play a hell of a lot more of it than wealthier kids with other distractions.
You forgot: Many kids play golf, not all of them are Tiger Woods (son of Earl Woods, a pretty good golfer who made his infant son watch him practice for hours everyday)
Many kids play American football, not all of them are Jerry Rice who was lucky to be drafted out of high school, whose daily workouts were so extreme that they were too much even for his teammates, and who is regarded as the greatest WR of all time.
Again, I did say nobody is claiming that talent is the only determining factor; but, there were plenty of kids like Maradona who played dusk until dawn (read Galeano); clearly there is only one Maradona.
By the way, he was known as an extremely fast player, who claimed to find the best move naturally, and not even always knowing why they were the best ones. If that is not natural chess talent, I sure don't know what is.
It's called intuition. There's nothing mysterious about it, it's nothing more than familiarity with a large number of positions. Carlsen is by his own admission largely an intuitive player...I reckon it's the result of the thousands of games he has memorized and the many hours of blitz played daily on ICC as a kid. But some people like to think it's fairy dust
I'm glad there are no more Randy Mosses. Gifted, but a prima dona head case. Give me an old school workhorse like Andre Reed any day of the week. Incidentally, Randy Moss couldn't carry Jerry Rice's jockstrap! Rice was the greatest wide receiver ever and Moss isn't even close.
I see you caught my Freudian slip
I know it is often not necessary for a really strong player to calculate in every position, and I didn't claim that they wouldn't have to work for achieving that kind of intuition. Like I mentioned in my previous post, even a genious like Paul Morphy had to play for years to become the unofficial world champion. However I'm saying that even if a normal person would do the same amount of chess study/work/playing/ whatever than some chess prodigy, it is very doubtful that he/she would became as strong a player. The explanation? Some peoples minds just have to be more suitable to chess than the others'. It can go the other way around (I mean, if a person is as dumb as a boot, he/she would probably be a mediocre chess player even after 10 years of training), so why wouldn't the opposite be true?
Hitler was not the nicest guy in the world either, but he sure was a great public speaker.
He also had a cool dog (which unfortunately he killed)...
"Comprehending the logic" though really doesn't have a lot to do with chess greatness. Just because something can be explained to you (more or less anyway) after the fact doesn't mean that you're going to be able to find those moves by yourself.
It's the same thing with art. A series of CliffNotes does not a masterpiece make.
It's called intuition. There's nothing mysterious about it, it's nothing more than familiarity with a large number of positions.
lol...Sure it's mysterious! That's like saying there's nothing mysterious about genius, it's just the ability to come up with great solutions in anything you try.
Ok, I want everyone reading this to do something...
Take a well annotated game collection, pick a game, play through it and memorize it (variations included). Make a real effort to understand not only the moves played but the ideas behind them (picking a game in an opening you are somewhat familiar with will help with this). You want to be able to play through the game in your head in a matter of seconds.
It shouldn't take long, an hour at most, probably less. Now imagine what it would be like to memorize thousands of games in the same manner
Now congratulate Arctor on proving nothing again.
I still say he's that guy in A Scanner Darkly.
Alright dueds, if you're happy thinking that you can never succeed at something unless God sprinkled you with magic dust then let it be.
Enjoy being mediocre for the rest of your lives (oh wait...Andrew Clifton (or should that be Tony Kaufmann?) has a USCF rating of 2177 apparently *snigger*).
Rubbishing our position by means of an absurd logical leap ("magic dust") only undermines yours further.
Laugh all you want, Bob (just go easy on the Death tabs).
Who said this exactly?
I don't think I've seen anyone claim that talent was the only road to success, but there are innumerable examples of people who've excelled in their respective areas with little to no effort. Kind of tough to explain those cases in a world devoid of talent, wouldn't you say?
Wait...what? Am I right about this one? Talent, an unmeasurable intangible surely doesn't exist.
Intuition, an unmeasurable intangible, does exist?
There must be differential equations at play here, 'cause I don't get it.
I never could hit the curveball, either.
What about singing? Can practicing singing make you able to sing like Enrico Caruso? Or did he have a natural talent which he developed?
I'm pretty sure that if I keep working at it I'll eventually be able to consistently beat Usain Bolt in a footrace.
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