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Computers think in zeros and ones while we humans waste our time thinking in tens and hundreds. Who knows how much more we could achieve if we just made things simpler and used binary?
Why is it sure that the best of computers have something to gain from humans? Let's say it's 500 years in the future and chess has been solved. Houdini 9000 plays perfectly. By definition, Houdini 9000 has nothing to gain from any human.
This can in fact be seen right now. Checkers has been solved, and Chinook plays perfectly. Chinook has nothing to gain from any human players. In this case, Chinook + Human = Chinook unless the human is stupid enough to play a non-Chinook move, in which case Human + Chinook < Chinook.
EDIT: And Chinook also only thinks in binary.
Yes, it's apparent that the world would have evolved much faster, had the New Testament being written in binary form, and stored in a memory stick.
It would be interesting a match between Carlsen and Houdini. And Houdini has to play for the win only. If a draw occured the point would go for Carlsen.What would happen there?!
...and then brought next to a large magnet. Maybe save the library of Alexandria?
I wonder why it isn't mentioned that when Ivonov cheated with Houdini that his GM opponent rated "only" 2600 got a drawn position and drew it easily... until Ivanov didn't have enough time to get help from the computer played a dumb move and the GM won.
It seems modern computers aren't as invincible as people tend to think. And this GM was "only" 2600.
It's not proven that he cheated, and with Houdini...
rybka 4.1 beat the houdini ....
i see both engine match rybka 4.1 beat houdini 3
He isn't even guaranteed to beat strong grandmasters every time, in fact his recent tournament results aren't all that great so he has no chance against Houdini running on multiple cores. Its actually irrelevant because Houdini 'cheats' by having perfect access to the most up to date opening theory and endgame tablebases while playing, most of us could play better if we were looking things up as we went along.
if you think the opening book isn't a big deal try playing against an engine with the opening book turned off, they play 500 ELO worse.
You may have a point in that. But even if an engine with 3200 ELO is down 500 ELO without opening book it is still a formidable opponent
Taken from wikipedia: "These ratings, although calculated by using the Elo system (or similar rating methods), have no direct relation to FIDE Elo ratings or to other chess federation ratings of human players."
Engine ratings are relative to other engines, not humans. The time of the computer is near, but has not come yet.
The only way to beat Houdini is to close it down!
Stockfish 3 vs Houdini lost 23-25 in a long time control match. The match kept swinging back and forth though, and either side could have won in the end. Stockfish beat Houdini from both sides of the French!
Someone stop bumping this thread so that the painful title capitalization ceases to annoy.
not quite, Houdini was on the front-foot all match long so no back and forth swings, also Houdini has been the leader for ALL stages (1-4), it was one-sided for me.
Do you think Carlsen have any chances vs H3 at this setup below as black.
Well to offset the exchange H3 get the white pieces and bishop pair. So in in reality black is just around -0.75 pawn ahead from the initial setup.
I find it surprisingly that H3 Pro draws Critter 1.6a in such setup as above.
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