You know the type: Up the better part of a Queen, and to the total shock and awe of their opponents, they forgo the option of a quick & skillful kill. Nuh-uh, rather than be respectful of their opponents' time, they move aimlessly around or jump at false 'tactics' that just prolong things by letting their opponents recover some or all of their material equality! Totally annoying! Stop the emotional roller-coaster, ok, 'cause I want off.There's no length these people won't go once they've got a solid lead: stepping into a pin, moving hardware directly into take, effecting suicidal move-order reversals, or making a hollow mockery of a perfectly good Lucena position. They'll pass on a mate-in-one, ignore whatever's en prise, and tuck their strongest pieces behind a fence on the far side of the board: an underutilized Queen and a blockaded Bishop having an extended smoke-break while a clumsy Knight and suddenly hapless King embarrass themselves at the fray.
If you're winning, then WIN, people!! Find the freakin' mate in five, or much better yet, invite your opponent to resign. (Maybe they just haven't noticed that you're up two pawns.)I'm sorry for 'going off,' but this is just lousy etiquette. If everyone would just smarten the heck up, we'd all never have to play more than 3/4 of a chess game again! Think of the time-savings alone! What's more, these dilatory tactics and unexpected reversals ("choking" or "come-back stories" as they are sometimes called) are hard on both emotions and egos. I think we can all agree that if there's one thing the game of chess does NOT need, it's more drama. So. Let's please all just get along, work together and do our level best to make having to say "checkmate" a thing of the past, shall we? Thanks much.Peace
I'm very sorry, I'll try harder.
That makes sense, but some people are too stupid to find mate in one, etc; it's pretty sad
well, no, some people don't resign, and I like toying with them. The other day, my opponent had 45 seconds on the clock to my 7 minutes, but i was down quite a lot of material( two minor pieces, if i remember correctly), and we were still the middlegame. So I resigned. why? because, in my eyes, he played better than I did. Honour, in a word. That's just how I view it. Now some of you will say that, "that's part of the game" etc. etc. That's not how I see it. Winning by time is winning by default, and has nothing to do with the quality of your moves( i prefer face-to-face, untimed play) . Resigning shows a respect towards the opponent and the opponent's play.
when I am three pawns and a rook playing against a lone king, I promote those three pawns to rooks, or maybe horses, because the opponent is annoying me with their lack of the aforementioned word.Yes, I am contradicting myself somewhat by winning on time, but rather than being inable to chekmate, I am refusing to checkmate to make a point.
There are downsides. The other day, someone didn't really realise what I was doing and why I was underpromoting so many times and not going for the king, and when he timed out said, "You could have won, but you suck" and closed the game window straight away, before I could say, "I was toying with you." Very, very annoying.
Don't you know the etiquette? Toying is only ok once the counterparty has firmly established their intention to violate accepted chess etiquette. And then it's only ok in the rematch.
I find toying with one's oponnent to be childish, but why not just resign if it bothers you so much? I know you're not obligated to you, and I certainly wouldn't begrudge your right to play on, but you can't have it both ways....
Grobe; what do you mean by 'both' ways? childish, maybe.it's also childish not to accept a lost game, and the last time i checked, two wrongs make a right.
cobblepot; You are saying that it is etiquette to break etiquette once, and only once, etiquette has already been broken by your opponent, and that it is etiquette only to break etiquette because of your opponent's aforementioned break of etiquette during the rematch. This begs the question; why do you have a penguin for an avatar? penguins are rubbish.
I mean that it's completely within one's power to resign a lost position, so coming in here and complaining that your game is taking too long because you won't resign on principle is trying to have it both ways. If your opponent chooses to drag out the finish because you refuse to resign, it's childish, yes, but it's also your choice to indulge him so you'll find little sympathy, at least from me, if you complain about it.
ok, weren't talking to me, sorry.
Toying with the opponent isn't very nice, it is however ok in some situations. Such as when When the opponent is in a completely lost position and refuses to resign even though there is no hope of winning. Then I feel it is alright to respect his wishes of prolonging the game and slowly demolish him.
Sometimes I can run out of ideas once I've just won major material and need to re-position everything before I can attack again. Sometimes your opponent isn't deliberately toying with you.
well, well ,well.................
This is a funny topic.
"hard on emotions and egos"
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Why would you allow chess pixels to damage your emotions and your ego? If someone bothers you, wave goodbye with a click of your mouse.
1 million etiquette threads. 99% chess.com "bad etiquette" = not taking responsibility for one's own feelings.
if its a lost position just resign!!!!!!!!!
Resign or don't resign, I don't know why this is such an issue to so many people. If you're losing and you want to resign that's fine, if your losing and you don't want to resign, well then that is fine too. I think all the resign demanders and resign abstainers need to sit down together and talk through their feelings in front of a family psychotherapist.
Mental note: Make satiric intent more transparent in future.
Has it occured to anyone that DeepGreene was partially-to-completely tongue-in-cheek?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE
you should be happy that your opponent makes bad moves and give you chance of coming back. however if he leads so much that no mistakes can make him lose the game then there is a resignbutton. if you choose to not use ut its not his faulth:)
Look at it this way: In that game you could have taken all the sweet time in the world analyzing each move for hours...and you would have probably found better moves than the ones you made in that game, but no! You made the best of the time alloted to you and managed your time decently, whereas your opponent took his sweet time found some good moves but left himself no time to make other such moves later on...That was the sacrifice he made and a good player would have called him on his sacrifice
Thats all...peace
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