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The Best Player Never to Become World Champion?


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #61

    dashkee94

    @Artsew

    I believe you made a typo here and spelled his name wrong.  This wasn't NN, this was his third-cousin twice-removed nn, "the little 'en", who broke with family tradition when he won this very game.  After this, NN would have nothing to do with him, and legend has it that he later changed his name to oopp, which was later used as a character on the TV series "Andy Griffith."

    You're welcome (in advance).

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #62

    SimonSeirup

    Definitely Bent Larsen!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #63

    ManonFire_Jer

    Paul Morphy, although understood to be the unofficial world champion.

    Harry Nelson Pillsbury 

    Viktor Lvovich Korchnoi

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #64

    Vease

    I don't think you can count players who had a chance to win and didn't take it (for whatever reason) so Bronstein, Korchnoi, Tarrasch and Chigorin are all out. Keres and Rubinstein are the usual suspects, but Keres had his chances once Botvinnik was not the 'preferred' champion of the soviet authorities and couldn't take them. Rubinstein was like Ivanchuk, I think the stress of a World Championship match, even at his peak in 1912 would have been too much for him.  My feeling is Maroczy would have given Lasker all he could handle in his best period 1905-1907. I don't think Nimzovitch could have beaten Alekhine in 1931, Alekhine was stratospherically good between 1930-34. Ivanchuk will eventually go down as somebody who should have been World Champion in the period with split titles but he got his shot against Ponomariev and didn't take it.

    So my vote for the best player never to be WC is Maroczy.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #66

    raul72

    Vease wrote:

    I don't think you can count players who had a chance to win and didn't take it (for whatever reason) so Bronstein, Korchnoi, Tarrasch and Chigorin are all out. Keres and Rubinstein are the usual suspects, but Keres had his chances once Botvinnik was not the 'preferred' champion of the soviet authorities and couldn't take them. Rubinstein was like Ivanchuk, I think the stress of a World Championship match, even at his peak in 1912 would have been too much for him.  My feeling is Maroczy would have given Lasker all he could handle in his best period 1905-1907. I don't think Nimzovitch could have beaten Alekhine in 1931, Alekhine was stratospherically good between 1930-34. Ivanchuk will eventually go down as somebody who should have been World Champion in the period with split titles but he got his shot against Ponomariev and didn't take it.

    So my vote for the best player never to be WC is Maroczy.


     Keres had his shot at the world championship.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #67

    raul72

    GargleBlaster wrote:

    Amos Burn.


     Man, you're working us---right.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #68

    fabelhaft

    Vease wrote:

    I don't think you can count players who had a chance to win and didn't take it (for whatever reason) so Bronstein, Korchnoi, Tarrasch and Chigorin are all out. Keres and Rubinstein are the usual suspects, but Keres had his chances once Botvinnik was not the 'preferred' champion of the soviet authorities and couldn't take them. Rubinstein was like Ivanchuk, I think the stress of a World Championship match, even at his peak in 1912 would have been too much for him.  My feeling is Maroczy would have given Lasker all he could handle in his best period 1905-1907. I don't think Nimzovitch could have beaten Alekhine in 1931, Alekhine was stratospherically good between 1930-34. Ivanchuk will eventually go down as somebody who should have been World Champion in the period with split titles but he got his shot against Ponomariev and didn't take it.

    So my vote for the best player never to be WC is Maroczy.


    I wouldn't rank Maroczy as a better player than Korchnoi just because the latter lost his title matches to Karpov, the latter was a very strong opponent and Korchnoi came close to winning their first matches. When qualifying for the 1978 match Korchnoi had 5-0 after 7 games in the Candidates semi, and 5-0 after 10 games in the final. Then he was equal after 31 games in the title match against Karpov. Disqualifying him from "best player never to be WC" just because he had a chance to win the title is tough.

    Maroczy had 0-13 in serious games against Lasker, Capa and Alekhine, and never won a tournament ahead of them. He didn't win any of the tournaments he played in 1906-07 but in 1905 he shared first with Janowski once and had a sole win ahead of Janowski.

    Apart from everything else, Korchnoi won the game between the two :-)

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1486372

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #69

    beardogjones

    what about nezhmetinov(sp??)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #70

    wandafish

    only the best would become world champion Sealed

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #71

    zrylam

    morphy...

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #72

    roodhan

    Jan Timman

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #74

    Vease

    roodhan wrote:

    Jan Timman


     Had plenty of chances, especially against Short in 1993 but couldn't take them. If he couldn't beat Short in a match then he couldn't possibly be the 'best never to win the World Championship'..

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #75

    Vease

    beardogjones wrote:

    what about nezhmetinov(sp??)


     He couldn't even get close to winning a Soviet Championship so he shouldn't be on the short list. Phenomenal attacking player though, probably even more imaginative than Tal but the positional players just blew him away.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #76

    nebunulpecal

    Rubinstein, Bronstein, Korchnoi

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #77

    Telkhine

    gligoric

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #78

    dannyhume

    At least everyone agrees Reshevsky deserves no respect.  

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #79

    GeneralChang

    Viktor Korchnoi

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #80

    cloggy

    Aaron Nimzovitch


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